Received: from mail-wm0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]:50419) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eCI12-0005fp-MQ for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 20:31:06 -0800 Received: by mail-wm0-f61.google.com with SMTP id l8sf1881385wmg.7 for ; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 20:31:04 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=2; a=rsa-sha256; t=1510115458; cv=pass; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=UJoaikkHDozdi2cb0W8JuVtc8Gax78ZnEL1TD1WOWvoHUWna0my0apWBnWKaPrqVo9 WrC0PWSOLlY1BxAfyULD3+Ef5Dfk9xSCukYBBb426q6mt6o3RxhROWJa5PibsRjnjPtj YHo+omBXT4A/pwDgCRaJ0WkOsNCO8ZLhzrivhjrgsexlP+23DkiZNuJUYSBtFHTsoROZ RgyYPAdnCeFGPJIeQFpOfJpgynSZ3dyMr4p8W6qs4cCvTXyoPLdtEER1etbK3tWeT7/q P+S+fu0vnvXI969UOtRE67DGIBPk3uNu9PBWYCNTBmJKYEB9Zcljs6/Y2qKzR1QCnU98 g0JQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=2; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-help:list-post :list-id:mailing-list:precedence:reply-to:to:subject:message-id:date :from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:arc-authentication-results :arc-message-signature:sender:dkim-signature:dkim-signature :arc-authentication-results; bh=8aii4t2g9d66WqFo+KxVPk2P9UvOoVJfSYGwu8kXbss=; b=qpxsIwvT9ykZuh9IhIMctD185MvuUH2plAhd2eCrmCRACc+K8KTvZzOUj2eVAR/ndG 5OgE7xnUv+XvhWP2JnHc9nVx/jVnEDNUWKY+ngTAP5gsoAFYCCqwk9dpqGcHo+udquJH eKj9km68OAaBozjvpvgHTx7ndn4KnQKwfI7+u0ZJmZpcPOxaP1t0bLPlpCHdlMYuH2pM AIBEegmDXOSRMY4Ybe27KbBlPubCSz6ktf3b1Jn736op8NYqZCKwP45oL+TDU/i8j/K1 xATrwcgWF/PNKh49BTxPzVpXr6PPy23pmUj6TiwNt26Czr5OSakA6K9X1m/K1EKtp3vq 5evQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=2; gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=pjjacTYI; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c09::22a as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20161025; h=sender:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=8aii4t2g9d66WqFo+KxVPk2P9UvOoVJfSYGwu8kXbss=; b=qv/iMPXNvaI9esCImER9NyNJTBQb6/A5yBgGRnVMi0JzGQJaiXq1+T+zBk9F0JPTHm 09KAZqyDbXS4r3JY5X+lb/0V11BPkWb2iZeYKDE/JS0v5RHn4n2FUPsNyrcTtAjVwxK3 pVxZQo7gvz1uizROnurL6W1SNMWR2QBOkfitlZYCCpFbyonM9W+Z4EGce7+NJntbHCAY 15kTvHWr1ynOWkKadlVPoj25btLNGy3vmrC3rbTWTfIjEkSBwrqERasQwghh3GLBWk4N vxw9Whpazcg05Lr8VkozDFG5gRKR6aa//krlWc2JGpa+Y5R6LxucK4kWTbmt9S/etkJf 6Gtw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=8aii4t2g9d66WqFo+KxVPk2P9UvOoVJfSYGwu8kXbss=; b=aesjCT8ecPkJJWBCS4arKyBJVQK/hYOYK+yMGNAqd+I4pdL1rsAmE4UbCnYnUYOMfL QTxGpaFia1rCdwHO970Qd8KYhmE1xuny8qdhKFfrq3bkjOEVniZ65rYup7kU+3WMkjUK 2OPa8Nw8s5r6QkDRKKQetZJvvGwyG5gzExQ1FIgTmt+Ul5JaNygonnr7mgT1SSeCxRaB h2WicxhfsxWINh2jf19vkfwAlAESJ3l+35qHPFv+H4Mx7eezaVars4D6YmghpMonqdpO 6iY4d5eJVVmT+0AaeK8EYl8VVFh8oYu0nn4CvB3ek2qFjCcQvqCRZ7qfsvOqOk6gMKsv k3gg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=sender:x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=8aii4t2g9d66WqFo+KxVPk2P9UvOoVJfSYGwu8kXbss=; b=I9NkpLJXrijz30dFVfc2j2/lImiiMlMSWbnBKOiiYqAADfxoLiqQxHdWABhEPTCELi E8IzA0sdyk0yma+Wev5vjrUrLUu7FwbYsni6DtxcgYr0YTkyxwh+dzptMJcveQUfDj+H Tdxzz5clxmSeI1OKfQ62HSfGg6auenVAFRtk0i4jX8zL6iNLtPtVlIkVDsXQE2kWZNdJ TuO5LQqqMJXZxscnTly9IzLWD6JZbqxamkxKwbdxdFx+OpHpiIGbZoIqI8l/+YgBUBN8 acTAz1Vw/mNtAbQa6gnNRGBJh2YYTAVlslgzrIBodFPs2Dq1/ZOcqprKEYfEZYFuaTcc q5MA== Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX4TzY1mJcYrP216FNiCW6ZSVfjv/2f5W0P6RS7FDJOOTweaiucf TyGMN9BN7XD8aGZcos3l9Cg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+SegBq9mO61vVxeBCJm054wnh3gRYtW7Jq9PcSaitK83aazdoV+r6WPg+xmN2eoSC8TijAoBg== X-Received: by 10.28.192.19 with SMTP id q19mr12653wmf.5.1510115458139; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 20:30:58 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.28.21.85 with SMTP id 82ls3385428wmv.0.canary-gmail; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 20:30:57 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.28.14.3 with SMTP id 3mr126299wmo.12.1510115457690; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 20:30:57 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1510115457; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=IpfbosKyvPQAmQd3WuU9sMxl/tx8dii2LGxfViIL0zoRBXC7YdzFkBJ8Wf1V8crqfh NKFrHx92nUPf4Av56IjoWePRhBAy211KFvo/+Zh67uTwbKseu26zBP+sHNASi5gHV+BW 3tVdFsr/bMXx1FVOY66fA+Sqy16psOsk48egC7lDPxxQfKsIPg26VyddAY8NCBn4vQne P5ONjualIocd5qv1kUHCJ4Zk0D4fZkgUJk6DGQncNHehg+sElIr1lHemHl688BJTlGtk afoxHKVhUS4Y5sD6/828PWvnDqVpcvKsBIypdHRoPoX5V6Rf9o0o7RsqDX0Ky5VTY/9z Wjaw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :dkim-signature:arc-authentication-results; bh=pQN+eccMfJ8qLtB/t35Zh7kNk+4t3+6kbYQqMTfGoBE=; b=jmD9jJtvVd9/D0efYo7Rfd6qT6mJ18tAWKASYraSi2PKsmroIWDLZSeRIC/3DANtMu QNnQn6sCuB9RmqYACrCQjOZ0Qy24bhd/9wEIyDNNXfv3NPXOsI7gdDtXX72W9l8mbL8M EmO8KMrY8+adGVy+zsCke2l9MukUA2RV0mO/Y+3/C6VZfVpAwgAdc93ISZuQ3J1Guv3e D5+m4XZS9ithLODxs5N2L5+DFMQcoh8Nz0Px4Q9PNNxwQ9o9DtisgmyP9thSZsajIM+G xVhxR3h5JO9PdXQuo4Tgql0cv0zPoRl95XfZU6OSbkz5fiq2NPgzjJR85wEkpCo/RimW uNeA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=pjjacTYI; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c09::22a as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Received: from mail-wm0-x22a.google.com (mail-wm0-x22a.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c09::22a]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j13si1646488wmh.1.2017.11.07.20.30.57 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 07 Nov 2017 20:30:57 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c09::22a as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c09::22a; Received: by mail-wm0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id n74so16579211wmi.1 for ; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 20:30:57 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.80.134.215 with SMTP id 23mr1774020edu.129.1510115457174; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 20:30:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.177.170 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Nov 2017 20:30:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <696697330.4644202.1510075760695@mail.yahoo.com> References: <78156dc5-1fb3-4e9d-992c-a8f30facc4fd@googlegroups.com> <2902921f-abf0-4482-b651-ad78066ec8d5@googlegroups.com> <31152289-ec64-49e4-82c3-bab4ed82cf9a@googlegroups.com> <696697330.4644202.1510075760695@mail.yahoo.com> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2017 07:30:16 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: CLL and modern Lojban To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045c277e651394055d71275b" X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=pjjacTYI; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c09::22a as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- --f403045c277e651394055d71275b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" 2017-11-07 20:29 GMT+03:00 'John E Clifford' via lojban < lojban@googlegroups.com>: > {lo x} designated the salient node in the matrix generated by part-whole > on the set of xs. What are the new wrinkles? > Still the same, simply not everyone understand it. It's plural {lo} with maximal scope. One of attempts to define it compared to CLL is here: http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/lo'o'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --f403045c277e651394055d71275b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2017-11-07 20:29 GMT+03:00 'John E Clifford' via lojban <lojban@googlegroups.com>:
{lo x} designated the salient node in the matrix generated= by part-whole on the set of xs.=C2=A0 What are the new wrinkles?

Still the same, simply not everyon= e understand it. It's plural {lo} with maximal scope. One of attempts t= o define it compared to CLL is here:

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups &= quot;lojban" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsub= scribe@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http= s://groups.google.com/group/lojban.
For more options, visit http= s://groups.google.com/d/optout.
--f403045c277e651394055d71275b--