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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 13:53:45 -0500
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  Ah, to "detusk".  That was totally not in google translate's worldview.
Thanks

On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:29 PM, <sukender1@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hum, my translations are veeeeery approximate, but that may mean:
>
> Seeing the elephant being imprisoned by the hunters...
> 1. ...he defended him (...da pu bandu le xanto)
> 2. ...he took his tusk (...da pu lebna lo bacyde'i po'e le xanto)
>
> Because "prendre la d=C3=A9fense de" is both an expression meaning "to de=
fend",
> and a way to say "to take (away) the elephant tusk" (~"tooth")
>
>
>
> Le vendredi 10 novembre 2017 15:35:55 UTC+1, gejyspa a =C3=A9crit :
>>
>>
>>>
>>>    - "Voyant l'=C3=A9l=C3=A9phant prisonnier des braconniers, il prit s=
a d=C3=A9fense"
>>>    =3D> Here the word "d=C3=A9fense" has multiple meanings
>>>
>>>
>>   I am not a francophone, and Google translate was at best unclear.  I'm
>> guessing the polysemy here is:
>> fau lo nu ga'a mi zerkalte lo xanto kei ku mi badgau (lo xanto lo
>> zerkalte se pi'o lo celxa'i mu'a)
>> vs.
>> fau lo nu ga'a mi zerkalte lo xanto kei ku mi badgau (lo'i xanto lo nu
>> cmaze'a lo ka klani)
>>
>>  (which, if true, means the same polysemy exists in lojban, although I
>> could have used "...stogau lo ni xanto",  I suppose, in the second case.=
)
>>
>>            --gejyspa
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 Ah, to &quot;detusk&quot;.=C2=A0 That was totally n=
ot in google translate&#39;s worldview.=C2=A0 Thanks</div><div class=3D"gma=
il_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:29 PM,  =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sukender1@gmail.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">sukender1@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hum, my translations are veeeeery approximate, but th=
at may mean:<div><br></div><div><div>Seeing the elephant being imprisoned b=
y the hunters...</div><div>1. ...he defended him (...da pu bandu le xanto)<=
/div><div>2. ...he took his tusk (...da pu lebna lo bacyde&#39;i po&#39;e l=
e xanto)</div><div><br></div><div>Because &quot;prendre la d=C3=A9fense de&=
quot; is both an expression=C2=A0meaning &quot;to defend&quot;, and a way t=
o say &quot;to take (away) the elephant tusk&quot; (~&quot;tooth&quot;)</di=
v><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br></div><div><br></div><br>Le vendredi 10 n=
ovembre 2017 15:35:55 UTC+1, gejyspa a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:<blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc s=
olid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><br></div><ul><li>&q=
uot;Voyant l&#39;=C3=A9l=C3=A9phant prisonnier des braconniers, il prit sa =
d=C3=A9fense&quot; =3D&gt; Here the word &quot;d=C3=A9fense&quot; has multi=
ple meanings</li></ul></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 =
I am not a francophone, and Google translate was at best unclear.=C2=A0 I&#=
39;m guessing the polysemy here is:</div><div>fau lo nu ga&#39;a mi zerkalt=
e lo xanto kei ku mi badgau (lo xanto lo zerkalte se pi&#39;o lo celxa&#39;=
i mu&#39;a)</div><div>vs.</div><div>fau lo nu ga&#39;a mi zerkalte lo xanto=
 kei ku mi badgau (lo&#39;i xanto lo nu cmaze&#39;a lo ka klani)=C2=A0</div=
><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0(which, if true, means the same polysemy exists =
in lojban, although I could have used &quot;...stogau lo ni xanto&quot;,=C2=
=A0 I suppose, in the second case.)</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--gejyspa</div><div><br></div></div>
</blockquote></div></div></div></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5=
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