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dkim=pass header.i=@hotmail.com header.s=selector1 header.b=OD37YwYz; spf=pass (google.com: domain of osiris_hades_deathland@hotmail.com designates 40.92.7.63 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=osiris_hades_deathland@hotmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=hotmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_bar: - --_000_BLUPR10MB0482FC185937494972A62F3DD2550BLUPR10MB0482namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >The logic on which Lojban is =E2=80=9Cbased=E2=80=9D is again a European c= reation (mainly Anglo-American and German, with a little French and Italian= ). It takes no account of the logical traditions of India or >China nor of= the specialized languages developed there for logic. So, it is hardly cul= turally neutral in the sense suggested. I'd love to see some non-Western and/or non-classical logical languages. Ma= ybe someone should make a paraconsistent polysynthetic logical language... --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --_000_BLUPR10MB0482FC185937494972A62F3DD2550BLUPR10MB0482namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

>The logic on which Lojban is =E2=80=9Cb= ased=E2=80=9D is again a European creation (mainly Anglo-American and Germa= n, with a little French and Italian).  It takes no account of the logical traditions of India or >China nor of the specialized languages = developed there for logic.  So, it is hardly culturally neutral in the= sense suggested.  


I'd love to see some non-Western and/or non-classical logical language= s. Maybe someone should make a paraconsistent polysynthetic logical languag= e...

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