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From: Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 10:52:01 +0300
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: CLL and modern Lojban
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2017-11-12 22:12 GMT+03:00 'John E Clifford' via lojban <
lojban@googlegroups.com>:

> 5.  I confess that, aside from constantly fiddling with minutiae, I have
> no idea what reformers have as a vision for Lojban 2.0 or whatever.  Does
> it still aim at the old goals, has it dropped some, has it added others, =
is
> it totally different? Of course, over the years even the goals of the CLL
> fundamentalists have become increasingly less clear as even they diddle
> with this cmavo or that, even this. selma=E2=80=99o or that.  All ultimat=
ely to no
> particularly interesting point, so far as I can see from what is floating
> around now.
>
>
I think it dropped the idea of spoken auxiliary language, added the idea of
programming/mathematical auxiliary language (proof system). I think SWH is
not dropped but mostly viewed as a poorly formulated hypothesis

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">2017-11-12 22:12 GMT+03:00 &#39;John E Clifford&#39; via lojban <span d=
ir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lojban@googlegroups.com" target=3D"_blank"=
>lojban@googlegroups.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=
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nt-size:13px"><div></div>
            <div>5.=C2=A0 I confess that, aside from constantly fiddling wi=
th minutiae, I have no idea what reformers have as a vision for Lojban 2.0 =
or whatever.=C2=A0 Does it still aim at the old goals, has it dropped some,=
 has it added others, is it totally different? Of course, over the years ev=
en the goals of the CLL fundamentalists have become increasingly less clear=
 as even they diddle with this cmavo or that, even this. selma=E2=80=99o or=
 that.=C2=A0 All ultimately to no particularly interesting point, so far as=
 I can see from what is floating around now.=C2=A0=C2=A0<br></div><div><br>=
</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think it dropped the i=
dea of spoken auxiliary language, added the idea of programming/mathematica=
l auxiliary language (proof system). I think SWH is not dropped but mostly =
viewed as a poorly formulated hypothesis</div></div></div></div>

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