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[95.210.222.53]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 7sm3549204wmq.46.2017.11.16.13.48.40 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:48:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: CLL and modern Lojban To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <78156dc5-1fb3-4e9d-992c-a8f30facc4fd@googlegroups.com> <963393d6-a9f1-4232-be13-b4ee76eb69e1@googlegroups.com> From: Ilmen Message-ID: <0388885b-ecd6-64bf-b267-51f01dea749a@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:48:25 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------251E1BD123664FEC7A040BD8" Content-Language: en-US X-Original-Sender: ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=qJcGw9dN; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c09::233 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) X-Spam_score: -4.6 X-Spam_score_int: -45 X-Spam_bar: ---- This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------251E1BD123664FEC7A040BD8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 16/11/2017 17:06, guskant wrote: > 2. Not all modifications to the grammar were put for voting. > > Examples: > 2.1. {broda be ba brode} > (discussion from 2016-02-23 to 2016-04-06) > *It becomes ungrammatical under the agreement 1.2 above.* > The proposal of making it grammatical again by modifying some parts of=20 > the grammar was not accepted by some people including me, and the=20 > discussion stopped without voting. > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/bpfk-list/kXZ5aBNPI_A/discussion > As I understand it, in the BPFK thread {lo nu broda ba brode}, a=20 majority of people voiced in favor of {lo nu broda ba brode} to become=20 equal to {lo nu broda cu ba brode}. I don't think this entails by itself=20 that {broda be ba brode} is no longer grammatical. But if a clarification on that point is needed, we can have the BPFK=20 vote on whether {broda be ba brode} should be grammatical or not. =E2=80=94Ilmen. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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On 16/11/2017 17:06, guskant wrote:
2. Not all modifications to the grammar were put for voting.

Examples:
2.1. {broda be ba brode}
(discussion from 2016-02-23 to 2016-04-06)
It becomes ungrammatical under the agreement 1.2 above.=
The proposal of making it grammatical again by modifying some parts of the grammar was not accepted by some people including me, and the discussion stopped without voting.

As I understand it, in the BPFK thread {lo nu broda ba brode}, a majority of people voiced in favor of {lo nu broda ba brode} to become equal to {lo nu broda cu ba brode}. I don't think this entails by itself that {broda be ba brode} is no longer grammatical. But if a clarification on that point is needed, we can have the BPFK vote on whether {broda be ba brode} should be grammatical or not.

=E2=80=94Ilmen.


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