Received: from mail-vk0-f60.google.com ([209.85.213.60]:47040) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eHBhc-0007CJ-Vn for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 08:47:18 -0800 Received: by mail-vk0-f60.google.com with SMTP id t184sf7870681vka.13 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 08:47:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20161025; h=sender:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=FsBA8FXhF5QTFZyiRld49m8s9dqS7+6XIEbLOAGD4tI=; b=KKZ4rzx3PfoG5EZcKp6L+DwHc32msXRcnAX2pT4jESHZAmyxHqDqA/IRucC1j02lnd 7pmJ1i3mmqapb2vDB7d2BxlcFioJSKfDRxp8bcHhMm32NWzrUm+MmlTPUACNzwV0HZPL M1aTcMIWvSiZLNAR9hr9Kpvt+mojA5acKbxl1II85f/HrwNjWnCEvDmMBqGiQBaMwrrV 7voy3H1KQ4Kan64nMNzinK3+dj/AINPDGHNELrpiRrpw9UeNc832D4NmVk8hoJsojvIs BBcPpiHY4XEhffJe/3ltg7OQtpy+oA5StS2SefOh64XoYk+JREBgI8X1r+Q40mL3lygC vReQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=FsBA8FXhF5QTFZyiRld49m8s9dqS7+6XIEbLOAGD4tI=; b=mPjsxy44/F5KzCBljX0TpKoxhN21ts15VFVikpPIptIOPmNN9RKmTaRzq4i1diUoTG PjPhJqvsSdTN0I19L5IsRveMv8M5C9o7UxmsWK5Ys1u2+d/aFEVdPYgGi0qchgW2lLms 1kcvHjageRfK9tiCxviMb26vBxSIwX/c1QciZ+WConAUSdEoCFY9Fqz1qMQAWkVTQrWz U7qAmcXAkOZ6izuJsebcVfKaH6KacQodWYh2a89S3HgdXfkGT8CxAEWLKg3JqFPlkfo1 V2UjBXPKWz1t3VONF8hU7ehT/qotsQBgi8I2Ly4oVwuR0WDMUHXEz8CXkK/a0oh0YfVz xrMQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=sender:x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to :references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post :list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=FsBA8FXhF5QTFZyiRld49m8s9dqS7+6XIEbLOAGD4tI=; b=ZqFE+SVBrbyoEsrlAsJfhxYclknsce+UrMddvyBgPTgljnoUN13U4adjeY752QkaB9 M6vu9G37U3fBwhGAuBxREWbX+csrVZgdLWQiGjMc9WOkeJZ0nEBbfrXqDDj4ujG3G8ke KDVvEZt0ta8w/D5hlxBJcP92clm8sgnsrW9OFdQF1LOogZkdRkU07EWCBfWSEo192APF fe8MMtRxcxq1ib7Df0vBHsVbFcVy3Fsylw0mBv0JXiBrY0t5FAraBu87iwXDNTRCw4P/ /ipVAoxbKfKbya4PbhSYUcEBNVan2SsLJl2pDQer4c0aLjOE6LzX/3YWV75Bwgp7JNgc eaUw== Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX6RNEV3N+GDRm1mIut9bffEiUW/nS8b0jxeGEvxtbRZBgFHrXSl 08nDILw9fnJ/HH1PAgnKyr0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMbFLa5UXi3otbbZ1k7AKKlLARWAYkCQZbzxhv3ng/9ieEqDyk8MjnySsxnvVP0tdLFkkKZKRA== X-Received: by 10.31.201.198 with SMTP id z189mr1603030vkf.0.1511282830293; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 08:47:10 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.176.25.227 with SMTP id r35ls493681uai.19.gmail; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 08:47:09 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.31.49.65 with SMTP id x62mr1272843vkx.10.1511282829479; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 08:47:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 08:47:09 -0800 (PST) From: sukender1@gmail.com To: lojban Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <78156dc5-1fb3-4e9d-992c-a8f30facc4fd@googlegroups.com> <963393d6-a9f1-4232-be13-b4ee76eb69e1@googlegroups.com> <7d063690-0550-45d6-9779-3334ac8e17b5@googlegroups.com> <85ecf653-49c8-457c-8397-d80fc0c3a8ea@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: CLL and modern Lojban MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_7210_203347461.1511282829340" X-Original-Sender: sukender1@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.3 X-Spam_score_int: -12 X-Spam_bar: - ------=_Part_7210_203347461.1511282829340 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7211_2054811130.1511282829340" ------=_Part_7211_2054811130.1511282829340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > The key point is that we have tons of people DISCUSSING ABOUT the language > and very few people actually USING it. > Sure. But having dispersed material doesn't help newcomers. > The only way, to me, to make the language evolve is to actually doing > something with it. The key points, imho, that make Lojban and should never > be abandonded are: > > - Statement as relation (as opposed to Subject/Verb/objects) > - Formal grammar to resolve any parsing ambiguity (I really welcomed > moving to PEG). > Looks like a very shortened "Lojban fundamentals" I was trying to achieve! Thanks. I'll note that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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The key point is that we have tons of peo= ple DISCUSSING ABOUT the language and very few people actually USING it.

Sur= e. But having dispersed material doesn't help newcomers.
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The only way, to me, to make the language evolve = is to actually doing something with it. The key points, imho, that make Loj= ban and should never be abandonded are:

=C2=A0- Statement as r= elation (as opposed to Subject/Verb/objects)
=C2=A0- Formal gramma= r to resolve any parsing ambiguity (I really welcomed moving to PEG).

Looks like a very shortened &quo= t;Lojban fundamentals" I was trying to achieve! Thanks. I'll note = that.

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