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The key point is that we have tons of people DISCUSSING ABOUT the languag= e and very few people actually USING it.

Sure. But having dispersed m= aterial doesn't help newcomers.
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The only way, to me, to make the language evolve is to actually= doing something with it. The key points, imho, that make Lojban and should= never be abandonded are:

=C2=A0- Statement as relation (as op= posed to Subject/Verb/objects)
=C2=A0- Formal grammar to resolve a= ny parsing ambiguity (I really welcomed moving to PEG).

Looks like a very shortened "Lojba= n fundamentals" I was trying to achieve! Thanks. I'll note that.

Just note that PEG doesn't &= quot;resolve" parsing ambiguity in a common sense of this verb.
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