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The key point is that we have tons of people DISCUSSING ABOUT the languag= e and very few people actually USING it.

Sure. But having dispersed m= aterial doesn't help newcomers.

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The issue must be fixed now. Please, report if you find= new issues.


The problem was not in= the mediawiki itself but in the docker. Robin, the Mighty has fixed it.

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The only way, to me,= to make the language evolve is to actually doing something with it. The ke= y points, imho, that make Lojban and should never be abandonded are:
=C2=A0- Statement as relation (as opposed to Subject/Verb/objects)
=C2=A0- Formal grammar to resolve any parsing ambiguity (I really w= elcomed moving to PEG).

<= div>Looks like a very shortened "Lojban fundamentals" I was tryin= g to achieve! Thanks. I'll note that.
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