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[2a00:1450:400c:c09::230]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i8si1254578lfl.3.2017.11.22.01.29.50 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Nov 2017 01:29:50 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c09::230 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c09::230; Received: by mail-wm0-x230.google.com with SMTP id v186so8688356wma.2 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 01:29:50 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.80.139.180 with SMTP id m49mr29857418edm.36.1511342989890; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 01:29:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.173.219 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 01:29:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <78156dc5-1fb3-4e9d-992c-a8f30facc4fd@googlegroups.com> <963393d6-a9f1-4232-be13-b4ee76eb69e1@googlegroups.com> <7d063690-0550-45d6-9779-3334ac8e17b5@googlegroups.com> <85ecf653-49c8-457c-8397-d80fc0c3a8ea@googlegroups.com> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 12:29:09 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: CLL and modern Lojban To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c19578e0bd957055e8ef686" X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=HZNACUou; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c09::230 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.3 X-Spam_score_int: -12 X-Spam_bar: - --94eb2c19578e0bd957055e8ef686 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" 2017-11-22 12:15 GMT+03:00 Remo Dentato : > > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:19 AM, Gleki Arxokuna < > gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> 2017-11-21 22:25 GMT+03:00 Remo Dentato : >> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 5:56 PM, Gleki Arxokuna < >>> gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Just note that PEG doesn't "resolve" parsing ambiguity in a common >>>> sense of this verb. >>>> >>>> >>> Not sure what you mean here, Gleki. >>> Given a PEG there can be only one parse tree for a string and this is >>> what matters most. >>> >> >> Yes, and it does NOT resolve ambiguity. >> > > Sorry Glecki but I still don't understand which ambiguity you are > referring to, can you make an example? > PEG has no tools to check for ambiguity, it simply does not support it, it's another grammar with its own drawbacks. It can't be compared to YACC, it's just another class of grammars. If you want tools resolving ambiguity then having tools not more powerful than PEG or CFG is not enough. > >> People instead of doing work themselves like to authorize SomeoneElse to >> do it. >> > > I agree and that's why I never stepped into this area (even if I'm guilty > myself to have written a PEG parser for my own use :) ) > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > topic/lojban/e94H-wdh5gc/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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2017-11-22 12:15 GMT+03:00 Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com>= :


On Wed, No= v 22, 2017 at 5:19 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com= > wrote:
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2017-11-= 21 22:25 GMT+03:00 Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com>:


On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 5:56 PM, Gle= ki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
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Just note that PEG doesn= 9;t "resolve" parsing ambiguity in a common sense of this verb.

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Not sure what you mean here, Gleki.
Given= a PEG there can be only one parse tree for a string and this is what matte= rs most.

Yes, and = it does NOT resolve ambiguity.
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Sorry Glecki but I still don't understand which am= biguity you are referring to, can you make an example?

PEG has no tools to check for ambig= uity, it simply does not support it, it's another grammar with its own = drawbacks. It can't be compared to YACC, it's just another class of= grammars.

If you want tools resolving ambiguity t= hen having tools not more powerful than PEG or CFG is not enough.



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People instead of doing work themselves like to authorize = SomeoneElse to do it.

I agree and that's why I never stepped into this area (even i= f I'm guilty myself to have written a PEG parser for my own use :) )


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