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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 15:06:02 +0300
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: CLL and modern Lojban
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2017-11-22 14:57 GMT+03:00 Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com>:

> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 12:45 PM, Gleki Arxokuna <
> gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>  Since people here are also interested in learnability of Lojban by
>> humans this proposed change of grammar makes it potentially much harder.
>> Who would remember that the rule for lujvo comes after cmavo (or maybe vice
>> versa?). CFG doesn't have this problem.
>>
>>
>
> I see what you mean but, personally, I never  thought that PEG (or CFG)
> are suitable to be learned by humans, and I believe they should not be used
> to teach Lojban to humans.
>
> For me, the formal grammar is meant for machines and for tools creators;
> in this respect I find PEG to be clearer and easier to use that CFG.
>

That's beside the point of this discussion. la .sykyndyr. proposed relying
on the opinion of people who don't understand the subject.


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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">2017-11-22 14:57 GMT+03:00 Remo Dentato <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:rdentato@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">rdentato@gmail.com</a>&gt;=
</span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span class=3D"gm=
ail-">On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 12:45 PM, Gleki Arxokuna <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.=
my.name@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_ext=
ra"><div><div>=C2=A0Since people here are also interested in learnability o=
f Lojban by humans this proposed change of grammar makes it potentially muc=
h harder. Who would remember that the rule for lujvo comes after cmavo (or =
maybe vice versa?). CFG doesn&#39;t have this problem.</div>=C2=A0</div></d=
iv></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>I see what you mean but, p=
ersonally, I never=C2=A0 thought that PEG (or CFG) are suitable to be learn=
ed by humans, and I believe they should not be used to teach Lojban to huma=
ns.</div><div><br></div><div>For me, the formal grammar is meant for machin=
es and for tools creators; in this respect I find PEG to be clearer and eas=
ier to use that CFG.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><di=
v>That&#39;s beside the point of this discussion. la .sykyndyr. proposed re=
lying on the opinion of people who don&#39;t understand the subject.</div><=
div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><br></div>=
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