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coi ro do

We owe some gratitude to la selpahi, who put a lot of work into translating 
into lojban an entire children's book, The Wizard of Oz.
The story is a fun one for adult language learners, too, and it should be 
worthwhile for study.
The only trouble is that what we have is a rough draft, with plenty of 
errors and irregularities.
As a thank-offering finished during Thanksgiving week, I offer a draft of 
the book which I have extensively copy-edited, although with very little 
content editing.
This should be even more worthy of a student's attention.

The text has been completely spell-checked and grammar-checked by a 
standard parser called camxes.
Since the existing form of text exhibits some non-standard grammar and 
vocabulary, this has been made standard according to CLL+BPFK.
I have benefitted from previous commentary on the web pointing out some 
grammar issues.

One troublesome pattern found is the form of quoted speech.
We mostly have "lu X sei dy cusku lihu" instead of "lu X lihu se cusku dy".
Unfortunately when we want to connect sentences logically or temporally, we 
find that a quoted sentence is not a sentence; it is a fragment.
Similarly, "niho ba bo" does not work the same as "i ba bo".
These necessitated some restructuring, which was not always perfectly 
satisfactory.

As a matter of taste, I made some other surface changes.
The unneeded accents marked on vowels were dropped, but the decorative 
punctuation remains.
Many compound words now appear in a permissible form which is not that 
found in a dictionary: specifically CVhV compound affixes were generally 
replaced by long affixes. [Why, argued separately.]
Online dictionary lookups still work, of course.
The letter h represents yhy bu.  Lines are formatted with "i" at the end 
and "niho" at the beginning.

One substantive global kind of change was made.
Among all the uses of "la", there were many cases where it is followed by a 
verb phrase, and where the expression is not at all a name, but a 
description, for example "la tolvirnu cinfo".
All such non-names got "la" replaced with "le".

As a final detail, in expressions like "the great and terrible Oz", we 
cannot say "banli je xlatce".
This English usage is old-fashioned, and to express this sense of "great 
and terrible" we want to say instead "banli je tcetepygau".

Besides the final form of text, I offer alongside it the original I worked 
from, a simple python reformatter, and the sed scripts that perform the 
copy-editing in scripted fashion, mostly one error per sed command.
This allows someone who doesn't share my preferences to alter the scripts 
and produce his own form, or for an auditor to examine what changed in 
detail.
Constructive criticism of the results can be discussed here if of public 
interest, otherwise just email me.

*https://app.box.com/s/z3qg2kx2m2qk5xnx0gi2rk2292ek8btp*

mihe la bremenli
Vincent Broman

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<div dir=3D"ltr">coi ro do<br><br>We owe some gratitude to la selpahi, who =
put a lot of work into translating into lojban an entire children&#39;s boo=
k, The Wizard of Oz.<br>The story is a fun one for adult language learners,=
 too, and it should be worthwhile for study.<br>The only trouble is that wh=
at we have is a rough draft, with plenty of errors and irregularities.<br>A=
s a thank-offering finished during Thanksgiving week, I offer a draft of th=
e book which I have extensively copy-edited, although with very little cont=
ent editing.<br>This should be even more worthy of a student&#39;s attentio=
n.<br><br>The text has been completely spell-checked and grammar-checked by=
 a standard parser called camxes.<br>Since the existing form of text exhibi=
ts some non-standard grammar and vocabulary, this has been made standard ac=
cording to CLL+BPFK.<br>I have benefitted from previous commentary on the w=
eb pointing out some grammar issues.<br><br>One troublesome pattern found i=
s the form of quoted speech.<br>We mostly have &quot;lu X sei dy cusku lihu=
&quot; instead of &quot;lu X lihu se cusku dy&quot;.<br>Unfortunately when =
we want to connect sentences logically or temporally, we find that a quoted=
 sentence is not a sentence; it is a fragment.<br>Similarly, &quot;niho ba =
bo&quot; does not work the same as &quot;i ba bo&quot;.<br>These necessitat=
ed some restructuring, which was not always perfectly satisfactory.<br><br>=
As a matter of taste, I made some other surface changes.<br>The unneeded ac=
cents marked on vowels were dropped, but the decorative punctuation remains=
.<br>Many compound words now appear in a permissible form which is not that=
 found in a dictionary: specifically CVhV compound affixes were generally r=
eplaced by long affixes. [Why, argued separately.]<br>Online dictionary loo=
kups still work, of course.<br>The letter h represents yhy bu.=C2=A0 Lines =
are formatted with &quot;i&quot; at the end and &quot;niho&quot; at the beg=
inning.<br><br>One substantive global kind of change was made.<br>Among all=
 the uses of &quot;la&quot;, there were many cases where it is followed by =
a verb phrase, and where the expression is not at all a name, but a descrip=
tion, for example &quot;la tolvirnu cinfo&quot;.<br>All such non-names got =
&quot;la&quot; replaced with &quot;le&quot;.<br><br>As a final detail, in e=
xpressions like &quot;the great and terrible Oz&quot;, we cannot say &quot;=
banli je xlatce&quot;.<br>This English usage is old-fashioned, and to expre=
ss this sense of &quot;great and terrible&quot; we want to say instead &quo=
t;banli je tcetepygau&quot;.<br><br>Besides the final form of text, I offer=
 alongside it the original I worked from, a simple python reformatter, and =
the sed scripts that perform the copy-editing in scripted fashion, mostly o=
ne error per sed command.<br>This allows someone who doesn&#39;t share my p=
references to alter the scripts and produce his own form, or for an auditor=
 to examine what changed in detail.<br>Constructive criticism of the result=
s can be discussed here if of public interest, otherwise just email me.<br>=
<br><b>https://app.box.com/s/z3qg2kx2m2qk5xnx0gi2rk2292ek8btp</b><br><br>mi=
he la bremenli<br>Vincent Broman<br><br></div>

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