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From: Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2017 19:15:51 +0300
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2017-12-29 19:09 GMT+03:00 Gregorio Guidi <greg_g@posteo.net>:

> On 11/27/2017 03:54 AM, guskant wrote:
>
>> [...]
>>
>> [Note 1]
>>
>> You said you used camxes for checking the text, but there are some
>> versions of camxes that reflect so-called official grammar without
>> mentioning the difference.
>> I believe that the parsers at http://camxes.lojban.org and
>> http://masatohagiwara.net/camxes.js/ relfect the original
>> Camgusmis-Xorxes version of grammar, but it does not include some recent
>> BPFK decisions like "ban on glide after consonant".
>> Another parser at http://lojban.github.io/ilmentufa/camxes.html used to
>> include decisions by BPFK, but since 2016-03-27, it has been developed by
>> the Lojban Coders' Group without any consultation with BPFK. See my report
>> below for detail:
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/e94H-wdh5gc/u2tzLm74AQAJ
>>
>> In order to solve this chaotic status of the so-called official Lojban, I
>> consulted BPFK recently. One of my ideas for solution is to create github
>> repositories owned by all and only BPFK menbers, and to maintain camxes and
>> BPFK documents by themselves. Gleki agreed, but no others answered. See the
>> thread below for detail:
>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/bpfk-list/saI34rwnvw8/discussion
>>
>
> Hello, is there any update on the proposal to create separate github
> repositories as mentioned above? I have seen some recent discussions on the
> bpfk list on the topic of github/gitlab, but it would be nice if any
> relevant update could be shared here.
>
> By the way, to better understand the current situation, could you clarify
> which are the users that have "owner" privileges on the "lojban" github
> account, as of now?
>

What stops you from making a new repo within or outside a particular github
account NOW?

There are already around 200 repositories on github explicitly mentioning
"lojban" in their descriptions. And they are from different accounts.

https://github.com/search?q=lojban&ref=opensearch


>
> Thanks,
> Gregorio
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">2017-12-29 19:09 GMT+03:00 Gregorio Guidi <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:greg_g@posteo.net" target=3D"_blank">greg_g@posteo.net</a>&gt;</=
span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8=
ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 11/27/2017 0=
3:54 AM, guskant wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
[...]<br>
<br>
[Note 1]<br>
<br>
You said you used camxes for checking the text, but there are some versions=
 of camxes that reflect so-called official grammar without mentioning the d=
ifference.<br>
I believe that the parsers at <a href=3D"http://camxes.lojban.org" rel=3D"n=
oreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://camxes.lojban.org</a> and <a href=3D"ht=
tp://masatohagiwara.net/camxes.js/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://masatohagiwara.net/camx<wbr>es.js/</a> relfect the original Camgusmis-=
Xorxes version of grammar, but it does not include some recent BPFK decisio=
ns like &quot;ban on glide after consonant&quot;.<br>
Another parser at <a href=3D"http://lojban.github.io/ilmentufa/camxes.html"=
 rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://lojban.github.io/ilment<wbr>uf=
a/camxes.html</a> used to include decisions by BPFK, but since 2016-03-27, =
it has been developed by the Lojban Coders&#39; Group without any consultat=
ion with BPFK. See my report below for detail:<br>
<a href=3D"https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/e94H-wdh5gc/u2tzLm74AQAJ"=
 rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://groups.google.com/d/ms<wbr>g/=
lojban/e94H-wdh5gc/u2tzLm74A<wbr>QAJ</a><br>
<br>
In order to solve this chaotic status of the so-called official Lojban, I c=
onsulted BPFK recently. One of my ideas for solution is to create github re=
positories owned by all and only BPFK menbers, and to maintain camxes and B=
PFK documents by themselves. Gleki agreed, but no others answered. See the =
thread below for detail:<br>
<a href=3D"https://groups.google.com/d/topic/bpfk-list/saI34rwnvw8/discussi=
on" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://groups.google.com/d/to<wbr=
>pic/bpfk-list/saI34rwnvw8/disc<wbr>ussion</a><br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Hello, is there any update on the proposal to create separate github reposi=
tories as mentioned above? I have seen some recent discussions on the bpfk =
list on the topic of github/gitlab, but it would be nice if any relevant up=
date could be shared here.<br>
<br>
By the way, to better understand the current situation, could you clarify w=
hich are the users that have &quot;owner&quot; privileges on the &quot;lojb=
an&quot; github account, as of now?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Wha=
t stops you from making a new repo within or outside a particular github ac=
count NOW?</div><div><br></div><div>There are already around 200 repositori=
es on github explicitly mentioning &quot;lojban&quot; in their descriptions=
. And they are from different accounts.</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D=
"https://github.com/search?q=3Dlojban&amp;ref=3Dopensearch">https://github.=
com/search?q=3Dlojban&amp;ref=3Dopensearch</a></div><div>=C2=A0</div><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1=
px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Gregorio<span class=3D"gmail-HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
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