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From: Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 12:40:22 +0300
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2017-12-31 12:27 GMT+03:00 Gregorio Guidi <greg_g@posteo.net>:

> On 12/31/2017 06:02 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
>
>
>
> 2017-12-30 15:38 GMT+03:00 Gregorio Guidi <greg_g@posteo.net>:
>
>> On 12/30/2017 10:17 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> 2017-12-30 12:04 GMT+03:00 Gregorio Guidi <greg_g@posteo.net>:
>>
>>> doi rodo If anyone knows the answer to the last question, I would be
>>> interested to know.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> https://github.com/orgs/lojban/people
>>
>> There are more but they are private owners.
>>
>>
>> That's exactly where I was looking for more information. In fact the list
>> of public members does not help, since members are not necessarily the same
>> as owners.
>>
>
> Why do you need this information?
>
>
> The thread started in reference to the stated conflict between the BPFK
> and the Lojban Coders Group. It is not apparent from public sources who
> controls the Lojban Coders Group account on github, which is of course key
> information to understand the dynamics of this apparent conflict affecting
> core Lojban assets. Hence the question.
>
> This is a very specific question, with a specific answer. Yet you have
> posted three times in this thread already without providing any useful
> information, which makes for a rather awful signal-to-noise ratio. Do you
> know the answer or not?
>

I know the answer because I'm one of the owners but that's the only public
information I have right to tell.
And given the records of LLG or BPFK publicly available I can't see this
group has ever been affiliated with BPFK or LLG. This is simply a group of
people interested in Lojban, kinda club.

That BPFK or LLG or some of its members think that a "group" has any
conflict they can contact it via the addresses provided. If BPFK or LLG
thinks that it violates some trademarks etc. they can contact github.com
owners or sue github.com so that the group is blocked or its ownership is
transferred.


> If not, please think whether the thread needs a 4th post from your part
> that would make the signal-to-noise ratio even worse.
>
> Gregorio
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">2017-12-31 12:27 GMT+03:00 Gregorio Guidi <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:greg_g@posteo.net" target=3D"_blank">greg_g@posteo.net</a>&gt;</=
span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><span class=3D"">
    <div class=3D"m_-2136376932670922018moz-cite-prefix">On 12/31/2017 06:0=
2 AM, Gleki Arxokuna
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      <div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
        <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
          <div class=3D"gmail_quote">2017-12-30 15:38 GMT+03:00 Gregorio
            Guidi <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:greg_g@posteo.net=
" target=3D"_blank">greg_g@posteo.net</a>&gt;</span>:<br>
            <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
              <div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF">
                <div class=3D"m_-2136376932670922018m_-4455275577747440008m=
oz-cite-prefix">On
                  12/30/2017 10:17 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:<br>
                </div>
                <blockquote type=3D"cite">
                  <div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
                    <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
                      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">2017-12-30 12:04
                        GMT+03:00 Gregorio Guidi <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:greg_g@posteo.net" target=3D"_blank">greg_g@posteo.net</a>&gt=
;</span>:<br>
                        <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">d=
oi rodo If
                          anyone knows the answer to the last question,
                          I would be interested to know.<span class=3D"m_-2=
136376932670922018m_-4455275577747440008gmail-HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#88888=
8"><br>
                              <br>
                            </font></span></blockquote>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div><a href=3D"https://github.com/orgs/lojban/peop=
le" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/orgs/lojban<wbr>/people</a></div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>There are more but they are private owners.</d=
iv>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </blockquote>
                <br>
                That&#39;s exactly where I was looking for more information=
.
                In fact the list of public members does not help, since
                members are not necessarily the same as owners.<br>
              </div>
            </blockquote>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Why do you need this information?</div>
          </div>
        </div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <br></span>
    The thread started in reference to the stated conflict between the
    BPFK and the Lojban Coders Group. It is not apparent from public
    sources who controls the Lojban Coders Group account on github,
    which is of course key information to understand the dynamics of
    this apparent conflict affecting core Lojban assets. Hence the
    question.<br>
    <br>
    This is a very specific question, with a specific answer. Yet you
    have posted three times in this thread already without providing any
    useful information, which makes for a rather awful signal-to-noise
    ratio. Do you know the answer or not?<br></div></blockquote><div><br></=
div><div>I know the answer because I&#39;m one of the owners but that&#39;s=
 the only public information I have right to tell.</div><div>And given the =
records of LLG or BPFK publicly available I can&#39;t see this group has ev=
er been affiliated with BPFK or LLG. This is simply a group of people inter=
ested in Lojban, kinda club.</div><div><br></div><div>That BPFK or LLG or s=
ome of its members think that a &quot;group&quot; has any conflict they can=
 contact it via the addresses provided. If BPFK or LLG thinks that it viola=
tes some trademarks etc. they can contact <a href=3D"http://github.com">git=
hub.com</a> owners or sue <a href=3D"http://github.com">github.com</a> so t=
hat the group is blocked or its ownership is transferred.</div><div><br></d=
iv><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .=
8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text=3D"#000000" bgco=
lor=3D"#FFFFFF">
    <br>
    If not, please think whether the thread needs a 4th post from your
    part that would make the signal-to-noise ratio even worse.<span class=
=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
    <br>
    Gregorio<br>
  </font></span></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">


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