Received: from mail-vk0-f62.google.com ([209.85.213.62]:38028) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f2XFY-0003n4-PY for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 01 Apr 2018 00:18:02 -0700 Received: by mail-vk0-f62.google.com with SMTP id r65sf9007085vke.5 for ; Sun, 01 Apr 2018 00:18:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20161025; h=sender:date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=VObJ3TofpOa2TwBYmrpSThN7v/pNAXZ/l+3rmLb+usg=; b=ciaXldnwYH+otCKgKU6Tcm5qNFG6HQ42MHfjDg+eJndlVPA3Epe2BQ/gVZ8BxWZxj6 97MONmfF2o6SFBtycyH1Tb4JSSP8HBpWIMg144gN04w107TdzIUK0QI/MSPV0jXzC9Uw u/iXBYFOokYuaPRaPQcGqunJ6Dh5MEnXhPZwrIUp0azp3MSamwCzA3oY8ECEWVyUhavs lPIUzNjNBXr5kXSe7Avyb6XQ09sRm4qNPuMx8tPgeVsxQwJPoogmUe+0tjdKIbPMdnuD Oo0YXP/0hQqkNjGnsIplyWXiIQ8JNmVvZaNcD1kiV/TRfJSSpVrlK/5sAeInrSWN8GI1 H/zA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=VObJ3TofpOa2TwBYmrpSThN7v/pNAXZ/l+3rmLb+usg=; b=I2KcQgew6sChFBBqQyTpj7R7x8/Ah01Ce5f+oghrdwuUyC0K7Nt1u0GTcNkF5zKeTU nFkKZnGsaxxSYYSCw2KiN9ziZJr+73p+Fji8UzTF1BVRxyPwJTK67plmhLsR0aYcXcJJ qHCm9GyM/vVwL4PoW9Iz6OZE77QI5bFDYzv6mWqpezXwD+ek77ScN7sJyIBs1ePOsIht OMKVsCoeqlrUZk3FIcd9jTP4tnQDSsAIZFAx24uPfTfRghG1yweKYt/kXfU/Zdv6pVmu XezDYdd221jpgLTKIO/FBUjxoUndy1vJkFkWMQKgND5VQNx6vi8o5AjcI5sNxQMw+v6z WAYw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=sender:x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:message-id:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=VObJ3TofpOa2TwBYmrpSThN7v/pNAXZ/l+3rmLb+usg=; b=s9bKaCVwGVx3m0+hyWzyyrh5mxRXZteDpjjLb6tBrOibQ1nm3jc76sbvKqHVQoQYuT CJSTo4GpBNmV60qx9JOaf5gpuaeZtN97yUhNa78rupDnRyIPiictyDrzhT0RIhH9Fx3B Ronk98dxUDpkJK/Og6OPrHaMKPBHKyiRPrURLZA+X9pViMd1N+61tWQp+rRdtup5ew6e F184IlQukjMsHKhiEnpQS0ELwGtRjyI2G45c+Oq7CUGvW8WP7s6iCmucwZy6WBygPG80 DHjRHivk2Mol5mguggD6PSgaZQGqgohRWo3Kdlj4SMuy8kWpdxRZYDhgXfPZmXbaaXbx 6PUA== Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tCVYJhCPpl7WLCR03UPp13fzQiGmIYmLsL0yMRVejGpl0mNcR0F lB5RtgQjPh5HEQkjplvzIGg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx4+0OWkdLuv9XKDsqa5vNoGlHRbmG1flcg1ty4j/Pbd46B2XYez3ZPX4Z3VVBZ1SNLAAyhZ4Hw== X-Received: by 10.31.199.67 with SMTP id x64mr580184vkf.7.1522567074058; Sun, 01 Apr 2018 00:17:54 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.31.21.80 with SMTP id 77ls7049182vkv.3.gmail; Sun, 01 Apr 2018 00:17:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.31.169.211 with SMTP id s202mr584388vke.4.1522567073217; Sun, 01 Apr 2018 00:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2018 00:17:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban Message-Id: <32fb1137-2e9d-44e2-a3ea-62f8832f2b40@googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] Lojban language has been liberated. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_11553_1401440992.1522567072670" X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_bar: - ------=_Part_11553_1401440992.1522567072670 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11554_777188974.1522567072671" ------=_Part_11554_777188974.1522567072671 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Lojban language has long suffered from having root words each representing a mishmash of sounds from words with similar meaning in 6 major language of the world. E.g. take {brife} meaning "wind". A computer algorithm created it by mixing Chinese "fen" and English "breeze". What is more {brife} can mean both "wind" and "breeze". In other words you get words that neither sound like words in the source languages, nor have the same meaning as in the source languages. Sooner or later Lojban community had to deal with this case. The solution, which enters into force today, has long been expected. The whole lexicon of Lojban is recreated by direct borrowing from root languages. If a word in the source language has the form that Lojban morpholofy allows for then the word is borrowed as it is pronounced without any magical tricks. E.g. from now on the Lojban word for "sticky" is .... {stiki}. It sticks in one's mind almost immediately. Or take the new Lojban word for "work". It's {trabaxa} and pronounced as Spanish trabajar (just without the final "r"). You no longer have to work hard to memorize Lojban words. And {asxola}? It means "asshole", you bastard. The word for "breeze" is now {briza} and it means "breeze" only, not just any kind of wind. Hey, French speakers! In your language "glagla" means "very cold" whereas in Lojban it means "very hot". No more worries. Since now in Lojban {glagla} can mean both "hot" and "cold" depending on context. As you can see from the table below some core concepts have several candidate forms. And some concepts don't have new forms. Missing forms will be created by Lojban community during the following year. And you can help this process! Make your proposals now, and who knows maybe your proposal will win. So that's it. The whole lexicon of Lojban is set free. Take a gulp of fresh air, which is now breezing through semantic space. Table: https://jbotcan.org/lojban/en/lojban-liberated/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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Lojban language has long suffered from having root wo= rds each representing a mishmash of sounds from words with similar meaning = in 6 major language of the world.
E.g. take {brife} meaning "= ;wind". A computer algorithm created it by mixing Chinese "fen&qu= ot; and English "breeze".

What is more {= brife} can mean both "wind" and "breeze". In other word= s you get words that neither sound like words in the source languages, nor = have the same meaning as in the source languages.

= Sooner or later Lojban community had to deal with this case. The solution, = which enters into force today, has long been expected.

=
The whole lexicon of Lojban is recreated by direct borrowing from root= languages. If a word in the source language has the form that Lojban morph= olofy allows for then the word is borrowed as it is pronounced without any = magical tricks.

E.g. from now on the Lojban word f= or "sticky" is .... {stiki}. It sticks in one's mind almost i= mmediately.

Or take the new Lojban word for "= work". It's {trabaxa} and pronounced as Spanish trabajar (just wit= hout the final "r"). You no longer have to work hard to memorize = Lojban words. And {asxola}? It means "asshole", you bastard.

The word for "breeze" is now {briza} and it = means "breeze" only, not just any kind of wind.

Hey, French speakers! In your language "glagla" means &qu= ot;very cold" whereas in Lojban it means "very hot". No more= worries. Since now in Lojban {glagla} can mean both "hot" and &q= uot;cold" depending on context.

As you can se= e from the table below some core concepts have several candidate forms. And= some concepts don't have new forms. Missing forms will be created by L= ojban community during the following year. And you can help this process! M= ake your proposals now, and who knows maybe your proposal will win.
So that's it. The whole lexicon of Lojban is set free. Take a gulp o= f fresh air, which is now breezing through semantic space.

Table:=C2=A0https://jbotcan.org/lojban/en/lojban-liberated/
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