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On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:17 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > Lojban language has long suffered from having root words each representing > a mishmash of sounds from words with similar meaning in 6 major language of > the world. > E.g. take {brife} meaning "wind". A computer algorithm created it by > mixing Chinese "fen" and English "breeze". > > What is more {brife} can mean both "wind" and "breeze". In other words you > get words that neither sound like words in the source languages, nor have > the same meaning as in the source languages. > > Sooner or later Lojban community had to deal with this case. The solution, > which enters into force today, has long been expected. > > The whole lexicon of Lojban is recreated by direct borrowing from root > languages. If a word in the source language has the form that Lojban > morpholofy allows for then the word is borrowed as it is pronounced without > any magical tricks. > > E.g. from now on the Lojban word for "sticky" is .... {stiki}. It sticks > in one's mind almost immediately. > > Or take the new Lojban word for "work". It's {trabaxa} and pronounced as > Spanish trabajar (just without the final "r"). You no longer have to work > hard to memorize Lojban words. And {asxola}? It means "asshole", you > bastard. > > The word for "breeze" is now {briza} and it means "breeze" only, not just > any kind of wind. > > Hey, French speakers! In your language "glagla" means "very cold" whereas > in Lojban it means "very hot". No more worries. Since now in Lojban > {glagla} can mean both "hot" and "cold" depending on context. > > As you can see from the table below some core concepts have several > candidate forms. And some concepts don't have new forms. Missing forms will > be created by Lojban community during the following year. And you can help > this process! Make your proposals now, and who knows maybe your proposal > will win. > So that's it. The whole lexicon of Lojban is set free. Take a gulp of > fresh air, which is now breezing through semantic space. > > Table: https://jbotcan.org/lojban/en/lojban-liberated/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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Another year, another April Fool's.

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:1= 7 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> w= rote:
Lojban langua= ge has long suffered from having root words each representing a mishmash of= sounds from words with similar meaning in 6 major language of the world.
E.g. take {brife} meaning "wind". A computer algorithm c= reated it by mixing Chinese "fen" and English "breeze".=

What is more {brife} can mean both "wind&quo= t; and "breeze". In other words you get words that neither sound = like words in the source languages, nor have the same meaning as in the sou= rce languages.

Sooner or later Lojban community ha= d to deal with this case. The solution, which enters into force today, has = long been expected.

The whole lexicon of Lojban is= recreated by direct borrowing from root languages. If a word in the source= language has the form that Lojban morpholofy allows for then the word is b= orrowed as it is pronounced without any magical tricks.

E.g. from now on the Lojban word for "sticky" is .... {stik= i}. It sticks in one's mind almost immediately.

Or take the new Lojban word for "work". It's {trabaxa} and = pronounced as Spanish trabajar (just without the final "r"). You = no longer have to work hard to memorize Lojban words. And {asxola}? It mean= s "asshole", you bastard.

The word for &= quot;breeze" is now {briza} and it means "breeze" only, not = just any kind of wind.

Hey, French speakers! In yo= ur language "glagla" means "very cold" whereas in Lojba= n it means "very hot". No more worries. Since now in Lojban {glag= la} can mean both "hot" and "cold" depending on context= .

As you can see from the table below some core co= ncepts have several candidate forms. And some concepts don't have new f= orms. Missing forms will be created by Lojban community during the followin= g year. And you can help this process! Make your proposals now, and who kno= ws maybe your proposal will win.
So that's it. The whole lexi= con of Lojban is set free. Take a gulp of fresh air, which is now breezing = through semantic space.

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