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Message-Id: <6D9844DF-AD2D-4745-AEC0-2501E61DB571@yahoo.com> References: <32fb1137-2e9d-44e2-a3ea-62f8832f2b40@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Mailer: iPad Mail (15D100) X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@yahoo.com header.s=s2048 header.b=ZjZICC24; spf=pass (google.com: domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 98.137.68.147 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dmarc=pass (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=yahoo.com X-Original-From: John Clifford Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.5 X-Spam_score_int: -4 X-Spam_bar: / --Apple-Mail-4AD9F2AD-A810-4888-933E-129169639AA9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good one, Rick! Sent from my iPad > On Apr 1, 2018, at 03:37, Jonathan Jones wrote: >=20 > Another year, another April Fool's. >=20 >> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:17 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: >> Lojban language has long suffered from having root words each representi= ng a mishmash of sounds from words with similar meaning in 6 major language= of the world. >> E.g. take {brife} meaning "wind". A computer algorithm created it by mix= ing Chinese "fen" and English "breeze". >>=20 >> What is more {brife} can mean both "wind" and "breeze". In other words y= ou get words that neither sound like words in the source languages, nor hav= e the same meaning as in the source languages. >>=20 >> Sooner or later Lojban community had to deal with this case. The solutio= n, which enters into force today, has long been expected. >>=20 >> The whole lexicon of Lojban is recreated by direct borrowing from root l= anguages. If a word in the source language has the form that Lojban morphol= ofy allows for then the word is borrowed as it is pronounced without any ma= gical tricks. >>=20 >> E.g. from now on the Lojban word for "sticky" is .... {stiki}. It sticks= in one's mind almost immediately. >>=20 >> Or take the new Lojban word for "work". It's {trabaxa} and pronounced as= Spanish trabajar (just without the final "r"). You no longer have to work = hard to memorize Lojban words. And {asxola}? It means "asshole", you bastar= d. >>=20 >> The word for "breeze" is now {briza} and it means "breeze" only, not jus= t any kind of wind. >>=20 >> Hey, French speakers! In your language "glagla" means "very cold" wherea= s in Lojban it means "very hot". No more worries. Since now in Lojban {glag= la} can mean both "hot" and "cold" depending on context. >>=20 >> As you can see from the table below some core concepts have several cand= idate forms. And some concepts don't have new forms. Missing forms will be = created by Lojban community during the following year. And you can help thi= s process! Make your proposals now, and who knows maybe your proposal will = win. >> So that's it. The whole lexicon of Lojban is set free. Take a gulp of fr= esh air, which is now breezing through semantic space. >>=20 >> Table: https://jbotcan.org/lojban/en/lojban-liberated/ >> --=20 >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a= n email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > mu'o mi'e .aionys. >=20 > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an= email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --Apple-Mail-4AD9F2AD-A810-4888-933E-129169639AA9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good one, Rick!

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 1, 2018, at 03:37, J= onathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:


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On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:17 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <= span dir=3D"ltr"><gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
Lojban language has long suffered= from having root words each representing a mishmash of sounds from words w= ith similar meaning in 6 major language of the world.
E.g. take {= brife} meaning "wind". A computer algorithm created it by mixing Chinese "f= en" and English "breeze".

What is more {brife} can= mean both "wind" and "breeze". In other words you get words that neither s= ound like words in the source languages, nor have the same meaning as in th= e source languages.

Sooner or later Lojban communi= ty had to deal with this case. The solution, which enters into force today,= has long been expected.

The whole lexicon of Lojb= an is recreated by direct borrowing from root languages. If a word in the s= ource language has the form that Lojban morpholofy allows for then the word= is borrowed as it is pronounced without any magical tricks.

=
E.g. from now on the Lojban word for "sticky" is .... {stiki}. I= t sticks in one's mind almost immediately.

Or take= the new Lojban word for "work". It's {trabaxa} and pronounced as Spanish t= rabajar (just without the final "r"). You no longer have to work hard to me= morize Lojban words. And {asxola}? It means "asshole", you bastard.

The word for "breeze" is now {briza} and it means "breeze= " only, not just any kind of wind.

Hey, French spe= akers! In your language "glagla" means "very cold" whereas in Lojban it mea= ns "very hot". No more worries. Since now in Lojban {glagla} can mean both = "hot" and "cold" depending on context.

As you can = see from the table below some core concepts have several candidate forms. A= nd some concepts don't have new forms. Missing forms will be created by Loj= ban community during the following year. And you can help this process! Mak= e your proposals now, and who knows maybe your proposal will win.
So that's it. The whole lexicon of Lojban is set free. Take a gulp of fres= h air, which is now breezing through semantic space.

Table: https://jbotcan.org/lojban/en/lojban-liberated/<= /div>

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