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Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2018 14:16:42 +0000
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On Sat, 7 Apr 2018, 20:25 Bob LeChevalier, <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:

> On 3/30/2018 10:46 AM, LUKE IMMES wrote:
> > Does anyone know of any academic, peer reviewed conference for lojban
> > involving
> > machine translation, lojban as an interlingua, and so on?
>

There have not been any.

> Some conferences I have found are:
> >
> > Goertzel, B.: Lojban++: An interlingua for communication between humans
> and
> > agis. AI Proceedings of China (2013)
> >
> > Nicholas, N.: Lojban as a machine translation inter-language. Fourth
> > Pacific Rim
> > International Conference on AI: Workshop =E2=80=99Future Issues for Mul=
tilingual
> > Text
> > Processing=E2=80=99 (2006). Department of Linguistics and Applied Lingu=
istics,
> > University
> > of Melbourne
>

The only published academic articles on Lojban I know of are Ben
Goertzel's, cited above, (I hold the author in high esteem but not that
paper) and one by Nick Nicholas in an early volume of _Journal of Universal
Language_ (on anaphora, not machine translation). Geoffrey Sampson also
published a generous and open-minded review of _The Complete Lojban
Language_ in I think it was _Language_. I dimly recall a nutty paper
touching on Lojban or Loglan (and uncritically taking Lojban's claims about
itself at face value) given by a Russian academic at the somethingth
International Congress of Linguists in Paris in 1998 -- I think it was
about Whorfianism.

A number of people have done academic work on Lojban either as a hobby or
as work towards bachelors or masters degrees; I can't remember any details.
I myself long ago supervised an excellent undergraduate dissertation (since
lost in numerous office moves) on (iirc) a Dependency Grammar analysis of
the formal Lojban grammar.

>
> > Thanks for your time and consideration.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Luke P. Immes
> > Shrewsbury, MA  01545
> > USA
> > 508 579 2683
> > lpimmes@townisp.com
>
> Nick Nicholas, who you cited above, had at least one other paper
> presented at a conference.  So far as I know, there has been no
> conference focused on Lojban.  There has been at least one academic
> conference specifically focused on artificial languages in general (it
> was here in Washington DC), which I attended maybe 15-20 years ago, and
> there may have been others since then.
>

There have been annual Language Creation Conferences for the last seven or
eight years, but these are only very marginally academic.

--And.

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
On Sat, 7 Apr 2018, 20:25 Bob LeChevalier, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lojbab@loj=
ban.org">lojbab@lojban.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex">On 3/30/2018 10:46 AM, LUKE IMMES wrote:<br>
&gt; Does anyone know of any academic, peer reviewed conference for lojban<=
br>
&gt; involving<br>
&gt; machine translation, lojban as an interlingua, and so on?<br></blockqu=
ote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">There have no=
t been any.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
&gt; Some conferences I have found are:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Goertzel, B.: Lojban++: An interlingua for communication between human=
s and<br>
&gt; agis. AI Proceedings of China (2013)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Nicholas, N.: Lojban as a machine translation inter-language. Fourth<b=
r>
&gt; Pacific Rim<br>
&gt; International Conference on AI: Workshop =E2=80=99Future Issues for Mu=
ltilingual<br>
&gt; Text<br>
&gt; Processing=E2=80=99 (2006). Department of Linguistics and Applied Ling=
uistics,<br>
&gt; University<br>
&gt; of Melbourne<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"auto">The only published academic articles on Lojban I know of a=
re Ben Goertzel&#39;s, cited above, (I hold the author in high esteem but n=
ot that paper) and one by Nick Nicholas in an early volume of _Journal of U=
niversal Language_ (on anaphora, not machine translation). Geoffrey Sampson=
 also published a generous and open-minded review of _The Complete Lojban L=
anguage_ in I think it was _Language_. I dimly recall a nutty paper touchin=
g on Lojban or Loglan (and uncritically taking Lojban&#39;s claims about it=
self at face value) given by a Russian academic at the somethingth Internat=
ional Congress of Linguists in Paris in 1998 -- I think it was about Whorfi=
anism.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">A number of peopl=
e have done academic work on Lojban either as a hobby or as work towards ba=
chelors or masters degrees; I can&#39;t remember any details. I myself long=
 ago supervised an excellent undergraduate dissertation (since lost in nume=
rous office moves) on (iirc) a Dependency Grammar analysis of the formal Lo=
jban grammar.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks for your time and consideration.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Regards,<br>
&gt; Luke P. Immes<br>
&gt; Shrewsbury, MA =C2=A001545<br>
&gt; USA<br>
&gt; 508 579 2683<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:lpimmes@townisp.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer">lpimmes@townisp.com</a><br>
<br>
Nick Nicholas, who you cited above, had at least one other paper<br>
presented at a conference.=C2=A0 So far as I know, there has been no<br>
conference focused on Lojban.=C2=A0 There has been at least one academic<br=
>
conference specifically focused on artificial languages in general (it<br>
was here in Washington DC), which I attended maybe 15-20 years ago, and<br>
there may have been others since then.<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">There have been annual Language Creat=
ion Conferences for the last seven or eight years, but these are only very =
marginally academic.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"aut=
o">--And.</div></div>

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