Received: from mail-yw0-f184.google.com ([209.85.161.184]:50246) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1fQNd1-0002nN-V3 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2018 18:52:49 -0700 Received: by mail-yw0-f184.google.com with SMTP id n201-v6sf3354132ywd.17 for ; Tue, 05 Jun 2018 18:52:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20161025; h=sender:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=c1+pmLdIGu63wCoqw6oieXYE4nylxAkkD5BHxvxV9WA=; b=Rjbj9xsD7hFCjpup7mEKbexHmAvpVyvM9YJhZHTX+dF30pD5MW1YtWG+QYqMQukl75 xo6J+voXzqLRsI+344WZ1ofIyJMzLklNnLkAt1phG9d4HZdjJI99b/iez9pT5mT4z1W8 l7xvXdN9nv5GzbXRqN9LPdBc6W/bZ6GXF8sXf9yE7Yd94th4DnP3NYw/USsKSrzkAq1Q 6l2lFhTC3DVN5Yq05E2xZuDnXT1oaFBk1l0FYUH5QEcGNXM9IL5GEOIFi3FggTA3LEmw EjbGLQFXgZ/SFS78uqusl+toIRFbQSre0+/JCk78Zrz6yHGDZEW7ZWi2hGpEQXt0d9V7 UxIw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=c1+pmLdIGu63wCoqw6oieXYE4nylxAkkD5BHxvxV9WA=; b=M1f2fZOtS2EY+OK37bzW2nlIvLbKTPXvtVWzTLpbq1rXBrepIld2eixGyYXiKZC7Jj 6Kh8trIME/erE9+zk9tPpIcdcvgh21x7NHsYiOGx/jnM9UHkPVTAT/3JqlCcTvJATrAh nbOegGeaIjsOEEuzIx4mNAz1vioIcZv27vhbpWnAe5oZmntNLWgmjro/FmIpRA+1znyX KXAJyDgyDir8jmhuAdTs//FKxmNmZIoG3BeZy/JWDUwwgDp5ztuQJJBdpbtBEYL7NWZt ryzR9sxMyv5SnE50n3oRd844k/rcU15P9fI0+gL/QS2Z+GhP+xxrG80vzuPJ9OGKqL/m aFzg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=sender:x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to :references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post :list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=c1+pmLdIGu63wCoqw6oieXYE4nylxAkkD5BHxvxV9WA=; b=jZVGD05/D+cigOpA21Ex6poH0WTpNdjJDNsAmJlkwoCre2VL58FOyDTKGuj9AxdMj/ aA0gnxWYh+vRALgPVIoBr1Trv9MsyuDw5BpBZUYh3+KNC/XZNTNP0BhtWkNHKiWfYaJV omAwXiLf6b7YlPUrhZegvijZSE72bh9gqs6JIGYpZtAyHyaWKN7lvdteEfEZYTX4FE2E sDImRCatjGry75zKxWwio+s3VMtavzVOWTN36LT9b0lXEHIue8YsEK38oREFrFakWNvQ e8AW0AiMGXmscMuahpFAHtQQTiGAamw2S5Wgbl3k5tgzHfHRek1XsB/rsFz8tCAIvWpI xYxA== Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E07WgVmOjF/nRmdZ0qd6zCqhejIc3cPeKGXVY7s5L1ObYNraTso OxsPfrUFJonhr1DOzOdYVok= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKJjMY0XdR7dXnhKcjUNpq5uEuSRzbKXUVv7UnwqFlpyPk0WibpEHEVZUQnqCvZWYzB1ghwi+g== X-Received: by 2002:a25:cf13:: with SMTP id f19-v6mr46368ybg.5.1528249961602; Tue, 05 Jun 2018 18:52:41 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 2002:a5b:50c:: with SMTP id o12-v6ls11094205ybp.3.gmail; Tue, 05 Jun 2018 18:52:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a25:4296:: with SMTP id p144-v6mr47072yba.3.1528249961117; Tue, 05 Jun 2018 18:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 18:52:40 -0700 (PDT) From: xabju To: lojban Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <2556701.tfa2tygDYf@mooncat> References: <2556701.tfa2tygDYf@mooncat> Subject: [lojban] Re: capybara MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_44587_579300175.1528249960505" X-Original-Sender: la.xabju@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_bar: - ------=_Part_44587_579300175.1528249960505 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_44588_1521029495.1528249960505" ------=_Part_44588_1521029495.1528249960505 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is it just me, or are syllables with both a closing diphthong and a final= =20 sonorant (especially a rhotic) hard to pronounce and mildly ugly-sounding?= =20 I have a hard time pronouncing /=CA=92a=CA=8Ar/ as anything but [=CA=92aw= =C9=99r], which I=20 guess is okay, since the latter doesn't seem to misparse. Still, I'll vote= =20 against jaurxarju and for tciuiro. On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 3:18:08 AM UTC-4, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > The capybara is called in several languages, including biological Latin,= =20 > by=20 > words meaning "water pig". Should we call it {jaurxarju} or something els= e=20 > like {tciuiro} (what it's called in Colombia)?=20 > > Pierre=20 > --=20 > The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain.=20 > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_44588_1521029495.1528249960505 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is it just me, or are syllables with both a closing d= iphthong and a final sonorant (especially a rhotic) hard to pronounce and m= ildly ugly-sounding? I have a hard time pronouncing /=CA=92a=CA=8Ar/ as any= thing but [=CA=92aw=C9=99r], which I guess is okay, since the latter doesn&= #39;t seem to misparse. Still, I'll vote against jaurxarju and for tciu= iro.

On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 3:18:08 AM UTC-4, Pierre Abb= at wrote:
The capybara is calle= d in several languages, including biological Latin, by=20
words meaning "water pig". Should we call it {jaurxarju} or s= omething else=20
like {tciuiro} (what it's called in Colombia)?

Pierre
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The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain.

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