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[2607:f8b0:4864:20::331]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k184si279011oih.0.2019.09.02.01.20.51 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 02 Sep 2019 01:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::331 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::331; Received: by mail-ot1-x331.google.com with SMTP id z17so12802219otk.13 for ; Mon, 02 Sep 2019 01:20:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a9d:7dc2:: with SMTP id k2mr21869044otn.122.1567412451318; Mon, 02 Sep 2019 01:20:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8039710.71oZ9UHxJm@mooncat> <2020157.WGM5QHFKBf@mooncat> In-Reply-To: <2020157.WGM5QHFKBf@mooncat> From: Michael Turniansky Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 04:20:13 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] xebro jirnytabra To: lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000060a00d05918da6ca" X-Original-Sender: Mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=WfJPT4FE; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::331 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mturniansky@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_bar: -- --00000000000060a00d05918da6ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" lo jirna noi jirnrcofara cu selke'a je sruri be lo sligu punli noi selpi'a lo tolpluja vimcu bo selke'a be'o cei broda.i ko viska la culxan.arux fi'o judri li mubixapi'epa . iseni'ibo da'i lo jirna be lo litybakni fa'u lo bakrto cu da'i plixau jo broda --gejyspa On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 5:21 AM Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Saturday, 31 August 2019 20.43.13 EDT Mark E. Shoulson wrote: > > These subjects are discussed as only the Talmud can discuss them, as can > > be read in Aramaic/Hebrew as well as in English, at > > https://www.sefaria.org/Rosh_Hashanah.26a?lang=bi > > Shor par, indeed! The scientific names Bos taurus and Ovis aries are > similarly > redundant, but you can't get "shofar" out of them. iku'i lo danlu goi ko'a > cu > ckini lo bakni sela'u ma .i lo jirna be ko'a cu jirnrcofara > > Which is right: {la micnax} or {la micnat}? > > On Saturday, 31 August 2019 20.50.45 EDT Mark E. Shoulson wrote: > > since there is at least a standard. But when faced with a word whose > > source could literally be *any* language (that Pierre has heard of), and > > possibly even modified idiosyncratically (.alzaitu.? Well, stuck the > > al- article from Arabic to the Arabic word for olives (zayt) in order to > > get the consonant cluster. And how was I supposed to guess that?) > > But you did. > > For those who weren't around then, many years ago I arrived at jbonunsla > with > an empty jar of olives and found some Lojbanists around a table with many > small pyramids on it (this was a Zendo game, but I didn't know about Zendo > yet). I remarked "mi mo'u citka le .alzaitu". > > Pierre > -- > ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/lojban/2020157.WGM5QHFKBf%40mooncat. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 5:21 AM Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:
On Saturday, 31 August 2019= 20.43.13 EDT Mark E. Shoulson wrote:
> These subjects are discussed as only the Talmud can discuss them, as c= an
> be read in Aramaic/Hebrew as well as in English, at
> https://www.sefaria.org/Rosh_Hashanah.26a?la= ng=3Dbi

Shor par, indeed! The scientific names Bos taurus and Ovis aries are simila= rly
redundant, but you can't get "shofar" out of them. iku'i = lo danlu goi ko'a cu
ckini lo bakni sela'u ma .i lo jirna be ko'a cu jirnrcofara

Which is right: {la micnax} or {la micnat}?

On Saturday, 31 August 2019 20.50.45 EDT Mark E. Shoulson wrote:
> since there is at least a standard.=C2=A0 But when faced with a word w= hose
> source could literally be *any* language (that Pierre has heard of), a= nd
> possibly even modified idiosyncratically (.alzaitu.?=C2=A0 Well, stuck= the
> al- article from Arabic to the Arabic word for olives (zayt) in order = to
> get the consonant cluster.=C2=A0 And how was I supposed to guess that?= )

But you did.

For those who weren't around then, many years ago I arrived at jbonunsl= a with
an empty jar of olives and found some Lojbanists around a table with many <= br> small pyramids on it (this was a Zendo game, but I didn't know about Ze= ndo
yet). I remarked "mi mo'u citka le .alzaitu".

Pierre
--
ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji



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