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[2607:f8b0:4864:20::335]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d12si186007pjv.0.2020.02.11.15.44.04 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 11 Feb 2020 15:44:04 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of maikxlx@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::335 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::335; Received: by mail-ot1-x335.google.com with SMTP id z9so95464oth.5 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2020 15:44:04 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:22ee:: with SMTP id t14mr7088650otc.236.1581464643581; Tue, 11 Feb 2020 15:44:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200206062919.GU26741@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20200211065911.GC2023@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: From: "Mike S." Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2020 18:43:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] What's going with CloudFlare and caching and such. To: lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004e3861059e556eb6" X-Original-Sender: maikxlx@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=g1Nu+Vm7; spf=pass (google.com: domain of maikxlx@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::335 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=maikxlx@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_bar: -- --0000000000004e3861059e556eb6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 4:04 PM Mike S. wrote: > > > I was sorta wondering why it was done the way it was done. Are you using CloudFlare partly to minimize the load on your server? > > Also, does adding a "Bypass" rule for a page deactivate the cache entirely for that page? (That would obviously be very bad for some pages.) > > If the answer to both questions is no, why not bypass all dynamically generated pages like so: > > *lojban.org/papri/* Cache Level: Bypass > *lojban.org/*php* Cache Level: Bypass > *lojban.org/* Browser Cache TTL: 30 minutes, Always Online: On, Cache Level: Cache Everything, Edge Cache TTL: 2 hours, Origin Cache Control: Off > > ... assuming, again, the caching mechanism continues to work, which we could test in order to be sure. > > The first line makes the whole Wiki live when accessed through the short URL. The second any pages directly invoking php, which includes page edits (which need to be bypassed). I don't think this setup is going to work based on my reading of the docs at https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/218411427-Understanding-and-Configuring-Cloudflare-Page-Rules-Page-Rules-Tutorial- which says pretty plainly Cache Level - Bypass - Cloudflare does not cache. There must be a way to do it though. It's an obvious use case. I'll read the docs more a little later. Are you using the free plan or a paid one? -Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/lojban/CAOYwWb2d6H0xB%2BJSx36Z6Q0_Epa2Qj-D4t%3DRFnh%3D3AJi9eV5hA%40mail.gmail.com. --0000000000004e3861059e556eb6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 4:04 PM Mike S. <maikxlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
= >
> I was sorta wondering why it was done the way it was done.=C2= =A0 Are you using CloudFlare partly to minimize the load on your server? = =C2=A0
>
> Also, does adding a "Bypass" rule for a pa= ge deactivate the cache entirely for that page? (That would obviously be ve= ry bad for some pages.)
>
> If the answer to both questions is = no, why not bypass all dynamically generated pages like so:
>
>= *lojban.org/papri/* =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Cache Level: Bypass
> *lojban.org/*php* =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Cache = Level: Bypass
> *lojban.org/* =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Browser Cache TTL: 30 minutes, Always Onlin= e: On, Cache Level: Cache Everything, Edge Cache TTL: 2 hours, Origin Cache= Control: Off
>
> ... assuming, again, the caching mechanism co= ntinues to work, which we could test in order to be sure.
>
> T= he first line makes the whole Wiki live when accessed through the short URL= .=C2=A0 The second any pages directly invoking php, which includes page edi= ts (which need to be bypassed).

I don't think this setup i= s going to work based on my reading of the docs at https://support.cloudflare.com= /hc/en-us/articles/218411427-Understanding-and-Configuring-Cloudflare-Page-= Rules-Page-Rules-Tutorial- which says pretty plainly

Cache Level= - Bypass - Cloudflare does not cache.

There must be a wa= y to do it though.=C2=A0 It's an obvious use case.=C2=A0 I'll read = the docs more a little later.=C2=A0 Are you using the free plan or a paid o= ne?

-Mike

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