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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_2314_2005368312.1583439409056" X-Original-Sender: sukender1@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_bar: -- ------=_Part_2314_2005368312.1583439409056 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2315_513614688.1583439409056" ------=_Part_2315_513614688.1583439409056 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi everyone, I've just read about LFK creation. It is said to be "a more open model accessible to all interested persons". This makes me think about something I discussed long ago, and maybe it is time to re-check if the idea is worth it or not. Nowadays, some "open organizations" solutions do exist. Their goal is to provide organizations with tools to avoid the need of trusting people BEFORE everything. Roughly speaking, those tools use blockchains to avoid fraud, handle reputation, etc. One of them (*) is https://colony.io . To my very-personal point of view, the currently-beta version is a "bounty hunter" board (tasks with rewards). Later on, a reputation system will be implemented, according to developers. Maybe it would be interesting testing things with a few motivated people? We could try with: 1. Basic tasks: translating a thing, writing an article, ... 2. A completely fake reward with no actual value (say a "JBO-Test" token). 3. No "true" administrators (this would only be for testing purposes, so why matter?). Who would like to try? I can create and setup the dummy/test organization. (*) I'm not advertising, just giving partial info! ;-) Another one is https://aragon.org , but I don't know much of it. la .sykyndyr. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/lojban/20f699d4-fa66-4a40-91ce-4d6b755aaa21%40googlegroups.com. ------=_Part_2315_513614688.1583439409056 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi everyone,

I've just r= ead about LFK creation. It is said to be "a more open model accessible= to all interested persons". This makes me think about something I dis= cussed long ago, and maybe it is time to re-check if the idea is worth it o= r not.
Nowadays, some "open organizations" solutions do= exist. Their goal is to provide organizations with tools to avoid the need= of trusting people BEFORE everything. Roughly speaking, those tools use bl= ockchains to avoid fraud, handle reputation, etc.

= One of them (*) is https://colony.io . To my very-personal point of view, t= he currently-beta version is a "bounty hunter" board (tasks with = rewards). Later on, a reputation system will be implemented, according to d= evelopers. Maybe it would be interesting testing things with a few motivate= d people? We could try with:
1. Basic tasks: translating a thing,= writing an article, ...
2. A completely fake reward with no actu= al value (say a "JBO-Test" token).
3. No "true&quo= t; administrators (this would only be for testing purposes, so why matter?)= .

Who would like to try? I can create and setup th= e dummy/test organization.

(*) I'm not adverti= sing, just giving partial info! ;-) Another one is https://aragon.org , but= I don't know much of it.

la .sykyndyr.
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