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I have always been interested in open organisation governance models and wo= uld be keen to evaluate any of the existing software. I'll have a lot more = free time in about a month, after my imminent work deadline should be over,= if that suits. ________________________________ From: lojban@googlegroups.com on behalf of sukend= er1@gmail.com Sent: Friday, 6 March 2020 6:16 AM To: lojban Subject: [lojban] Experiment "open organization"? Hi everyone, I've just read about LFK creation. It is said to be "a more open model acce= ssible to all interested persons". This makes me think about something I di= scussed long ago, and maybe it is time to re-check if the idea is worth it = or not. Nowadays, some "open organizations" solutions do exist. Their goal is to pr= ovide organizations with tools to avoid the need of trusting people BEFORE = everything. Roughly speaking, those tools use blockchains to avoid fraud, h= andle reputation, etc. One of them (*) is https://colony.io . To my very-personal point of view, t= he currently-beta version is a "bounty hunter" board (tasks with rewards). = Later on, a reputation system will be implemented, according to developers.= Maybe it would be interesting testing things with a few motivated people? = We could try with: 1. Basic tasks: translating a thing, writing an article, ... 2. A completely fake reward with no actual value (say a "JBO-Test" token). 3. No "true" administrators (this would only be for testing purposes, so wh= y matter?). Who would like to try? I can create and setup the dummy/test organization. (*) I'm not advertising, just giving partial info! ;-) Another one is https= ://aragon.org , but I don't know much of it. la .sykyndyr. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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coi la.sykyndyr.

I have always been interested in open organisation governance models and wo= uld be keen to evaluate any of the existing software. I'll have a lot more = free time in about a month, after my imminent work deadline should be over,= if that suits.


From: lojban@googlegroups= .com <lojban@googlegroups.com> on behalf of sukender1@gmail.com <s= ukender1@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, 6 March 2020 6:16 AM
To: lojban <lojban@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [lojban] Experiment "open organization"?
 
Hi everyone,

I've just read about LFK creation. It is said to be "a more open = model accessible to all interested persons". This makes me think about= something I discussed long ago, and maybe it is time to re-check if the id= ea is worth it or not.
Nowadays, some "open organizations" solutions do exist. Thei= r goal is to provide organizations with tools to avoid the need of trusting= people BEFORE everything. Roughly speaking, those tools use blockchains to= avoid fraud, handle reputation, etc.

One of them (*) is https://colony.io . To my very-personal point of vi= ew, the currently-beta version is a "bounty hunter" board (tasks = with rewards). Later on, a reputation system will be implemented, according= to developers. Maybe it would be interesting testing things with a few motivated people? We could try with:
1. Basic tasks: translating a thing, writing an article, ...
2. A completely fake reward with no actual value (say a "JBO-Test= " token).
3. No "true" administrators (this would only be for testing = purposes, so why matter?).

Who would like to try? I can create and setup the dummy/test organizat= ion.

(*) I'm not advertising, just giving partial info! ;-) Another one is = https://aragon.org , but I don't know much of it.

la .sykyndyr.

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