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Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 13:00:10 -0700
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Why does CLLv1.1 retain so many errors from CLLv1.0?
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I'm a lurker on this project, and I appreciate all the work done on it.
However, the correct answer to your question, as with all free culture /
open source projects, is "because YOU didn't fix it!"

Congratulations to everyone on 1.1.

Best wishes,

Ron Hale-Evans


On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 10:52 PM <scope845hlang343jbo@icebubble.org> wrote:

> I was just comparing the new edition of the official Lojban Reference
> Grammar (CLL v1.1) with my annotated(/corrected) bound copy of the
> book... and I find myself rather disappointed.  A few of the errors in
> v1.0 were corrected, but most of the errors, omissions, ambiguities, and
> confusing passages in v1.0 were retained in v1.1.  I had hoped that
> these errors would be caught, and that the new edition of the CLL would
> be clear, correct, and intelligible.
>
> Here's just one example off the top of my head: In section 10.4, both
> CLLv1.0 and v1.1 state that a temporal tense is expressed before a
> spatial tense.  But the formal grammar (EBNF Rule 972, yacc Rule 979)
> allows them to occur in either order.  The text is still wrong.  And
> there are many other examples.
>
> Could anyone tell me why all these problems weren't corrected in CLL
> v1.1?
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<div dir=3D"auto">I&#39;m a lurker on this project, and I appreciate all th=
e work done on it. However, the correct answer to your question, as with al=
l free culture / open source projects, is &quot;because YOU didn&#39;t fix =
it!&quot;<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Congratulations to e=
veryone on 1.1.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Best wis=
hes,</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Ron Hale-Evans</div=
><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 10:52 PM  &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:scope845hlang343jbo@icebubble.org">scope845hlang343jbo@icebubble=
.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I was just comp=
aring the new edition of the official Lojban Reference<br>
Grammar (CLL v1.1) with my annotated(/corrected) bound copy of the<br>
book... and I find myself rather disappointed.=C2=A0 A few of the errors in=
<br>
v1.0 were corrected, but most of the errors, omissions, ambiguities, and<br=
>
confusing passages in v1.0 were retained in v1.1.=C2=A0 I had hoped that<br=
>
these errors would be caught, and that the new edition of the CLL would<br>
be clear, correct, and intelligible.<br>
<br>
Here&#39;s just one example off the top of my head: In section 10.4, both<b=
r>
CLLv1.0 and v1.1 state that a temporal tense is expressed before a<br>
spatial tense.=C2=A0 But the formal grammar (EBNF Rule 972, yacc Rule 979)<=
br>
allows them to occur in either order.=C2=A0 The text is still wrong.=C2=A0 =
And<br>
there are many other examples.<br>
<br>
Could anyone tell me why all these problems weren&#39;t corrected in CLL<br=
>
v1.1?<br>
<br>
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