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Em ter=C3=A7a-feira, 14 de abril de 2020 18:34:46 = UTC+3, scope845hlang343jbo@icebubble.org escreveu:
Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.n= ame@gmail.com> writes:
> I have one. When I asked about inconsistencies in the PEG grammar = I was=20
> given an answer that some semantic parser should do that job. Howe= ver, no=20

What "inconsistencies" exist in the PEG grammar?

There is no "the" PEG gramma= r of Lojban. There are multiple grammars. In case of ilmentufa the immediat= e one I can recognize is the inability to compile it due to infinite recurs= ion. When it's fixed I can tell you of others. But currently I can'= t even run it :)=C2=A0

uakci <ciuak.prog@gmail.com> writes:

> really uses and which could be phrased in simpler terms. Irregular= ities in
> gismu frames. Many, many internal distinctions like PU vs. VI vs. = ZI vs.

To what irregularities in gismu frames do you refer?

{ta'o doi pycyn}, there is such a thing as a paragraph. =C2=A0:P

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