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[34.195.253.205]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m9si388931ybc.3.2020.04.22.08.26.33 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Apr 2020 08:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 34.195.253.205 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) client-ip=34.195.253.205; Received: from cxr.smtp.a.cloudfilter.net ([10.0.16.208]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id R9OMjCcg71rmwRHGjjbSI9; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 15:26:33 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.102] ([72.192.211.87]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPSA id RHGhj7ivVgjwvRHGijKqbt; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 15:26:33 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=I+8bu+og c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=FTyH7dqNF3Dz0pD1G7OcLA==:117 a=FTyH7dqNF3Dz0pD1G7OcLA==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=8pif782wAAAA:8 a=mRYsq23QtF3bigbjmEcA:9 a=YMfiSRLTsXXIT-fS:21 a=QYX9W8eRoYZTGdn9:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Z5ABNNGmrOfJ6cZ5bIyy:22 a=SsAZrZ5W_gNWK9tOzrEV:22 To: lojban@googlegroups.com From: Bob LeChevalier Subject: [lojban] Very belated report on the death of Jeff Prothero - a cofounder of Lojban Message-ID: <9f1f30f9-d319-4280-11f8-750b251a1753@lojban.org> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 11:26:36 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfIm0TD4Q9XPD4ydbj0wbllaBCQo5oZt8Mxywqh7aXhxqoSsdI8vgBVvEWoJqORNNZPvPsX0JXQzqFFbEBuhCGo0cnX32oJYGg0jECodhb2Sn96QkhNgX lssqLoHTffqTYr+1xah6t6xFY/jy8bgio960qsaxW3of4GWNQlJdQs72zrWEHHC5LF3Z5FZI6x4Ybg== X-Original-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 34.195.253.205 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) smtp.mailfrom=lojbab@lojban.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_bar: -- I discovered when looking him up on the net, that Jeff Prothero passed away back in 2016, and I am pretty sure no one said anything at the time. Jeff Prothero, back when there was only one version of Loglan, was the first person AFAIK to come up with a complete formal YACC grammar and parser for TLI Loglan, back around 1980 while he was still a student at U of Washington. Others had attempted to create a YACC grammar for Loglan starting back in 1976-1977 (notably, i think, Doug Landauer and Sheldon Linker), but Jeff was the one who figured out how to use YACC's error-correcting logic to achieve processing of the numerous elidable terminators in the language. Scott Layson later took Jeff's work as the basis for the parser that became the official Loglan parser in 1982. When Nora and I first split off from Dr James Cooke Brown, the inventor of Loglan and his organization The Loglan Institute, Inc., and we started trying to devise Lojban, Jeff was the one who got me started working on an updated YACC grammar. JCB attacked both of us as violating the alleged copyright of the Loglan grammar and trademark of Loglan as a name of the language, and Jeff joined with me in legally challenging JCB's claims. The copyright claim went away when Jeff pointed out that his work on the YACC grammar was as a student employee of the University, and hence could not be "owned" by anyone else without university release (which was never sought). Jeff contributed significantly to the hefty legal fees we incurred challenging the trademark. As part of all this, Jeff taught me what I could grasp of YACC grammar-writing, which eventually led to the official Lojban YACC grammar (Later contributors were Jeff Taylor, and of course John Cowan, who largely took over parser work from me in 1992-3, and produced the currently official YACC grammar in an appendix to CLL in 1997, an official parser derived from that grammar, and the E-BNF simplified version of the grammar which some people prefer. While there have been attempts to devise other parsers for Lojban, especially for online use, and also to try to formalize more of the language than the basic grammar, I don't think anything ever reached the state of "approval" by BPFK, which still had the authority to do so until recently. So in a sense, Jeff Prothero legitimately can be described as the "father" of Lojban's formal grammar Jeff moved on to other pursuits besides Lojban after he moved away from Washington, as described in this Wikipedia article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynbe_ru_Taren I kept occasional contact with him, but had not done so in the last few years after my health problems led me to reduce my Lojban activity. I first read of his death, while answering a discussion question, from that Wikipedia article, and realized that few Lojbanists today even knew of Jeff Prothero and his immense contribution to Lojban, without which it might not have even been started, much less achieved the wide recognition that it now has. This is an attempt to remedy that. lojbab Bob LeChevalier Founder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/lojban/9f1f30f9-d319-4280-11f8-750b251a1753%40lojban.org.