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Subject: [lojban] Re: Fuzzy set theory
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Em quinta-feira, 24 de setembro de 2020 =C3=A0s 20:57:32 UTC+3, Corbin Simp=
son=20
escreveu:

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> Another problem that I don't have suggestions for handling is the=20
> inability to talk about fuzzy selbri. There ought to be a BAI so that {lo=
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> broda BAI li PA} performs some sort of graded selection and only consider=
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> those broda1 which grade at least PA in membership/relation. But not only=
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> is there no such BAI, there are not even any reasonable candidates among=
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> the gismu for {fi'o} nonce tagging.
>
>
That's not something geeky. It was asked before for translating "I barely=
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speak Lojban" because it modifies not the arguments (neither Lojban nor me=
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are fuzzy).=20

My attempt for such a brivla
"enki =3D x1 is bound to x2 by relationship x3 (relationship with two {ce'u=
}=20
for x1 and x2); Used to more precisely express relationship (whether fuzzy=
=20
or not) between terbricmi (predicate slots) and arguments (sumti) filling=
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those slots. See also ckini=20
<http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/ckini?bg=3D1;langidarg=3D2>, va'e=20
<http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/va%27e?bg=3D1;langidarg=3D2>, jei=20
<http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/jei?bg=3D1;langidarg=3D2>, sela'u=20
<http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/sela%27u?bg=3D1;langidarg=3D2>." can be=
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considered a failed one (indeed, how is it different from ckini?)=20

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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"gmail_attr">E=
m quinta-feira, 24 de setembro de 2020 =C3=A0s 20:57:32 UTC+3, Corbin Simps=
on escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0 =
0 0 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><=
br><div>Another problem that I don't have suggestions for handling is the i=
nability to talk about fuzzy selbri. There ought to be a BAI so that {lo br=
oda BAI li PA} performs some sort of graded selection and only considers th=
ose broda1 which grade at least PA in membership/relation. But not only is =
there no such BAI, there are not even any reasonable candidates among the g=
ismu for {fi'o} nonce tagging.<br></div><div><br></div></blockquote><div><b=
r></div><div>That's not something geeky. It was asked before for translatin=
g "I barely speak Lojban" because it modifies not the arguments (neither Lo=
jban nor me are fuzzy).&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>My attempt for such =
a brivla</div>"enki =3D&nbsp;x1&nbsp;is bound to x2&nbsp;by relationship x3=
&nbsp;(relationship with two {ce'u} for x1&nbsp;and x2); Used to more preci=
sely express relationship (whether fuzzy or not) between terbricmi (predica=
te slots) and arguments (sumti) filling those slots. See also&nbsp;<a href=
=3D"http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/ckini?bg=3D1;langidarg=3D2">ckini</a>,=
&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/va%27e?bg=3D1;langidarg=
=3D2">va'e</a>,&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/jei?bg=3D1=
;langidarg=3D2">jei</a>,&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/s=
ela%27u?bg=3D1;langidarg=3D2">sela'u</a>." can be considered a failed one (=
indeed, how is it different from ckini?)&nbsp;</div>

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