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Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Fuzzy set theory
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Em s=C3=A1bado, 26 de setembro de 2020 =C3=A0s 17:03:47 UTC+3, la tsani esc=
reveu:

> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 01:55:24AM -0700, gleki.is...@gmail.com wrote:=20
> > That's not something geeky. It was asked before for translating "I=20
> barely=20
> > speak Lojban" because it modifies not the arguments (neither Lojban nor=
=20
> me=20
> > are fu
>
> What's wrong with {.i mi so'uva'e lo ka se jbobau} ?=20


> Also, I reckon this also a translation problem. Perhaps {.i mi tolcre=20
> lo ka se jbobau} or {.i mi tolcre lo ka tavla fo lo lojbo} more=20
> accurately captures what one means to say in "I barely speak Lojban."=20
>
> > My attempt for such a brivla=20
> > "enki =3D x1 is bound to x2 by relationship x3 (relationship with two=
=20
> {ce'u}=20
> > for x1 and x2); Used to more precisely express relationship (whether=20
> fuzzy=20
> > or not) between terbricmi (predicate slots) and arguments (sumti)=20
> filling=20
> > those slots. See also ckini=20
>
> How is this any different from {ckini} ?=20
>


Well the initial goal of enka was applying fuzzy relation to two arguments=
=20
of the selbri, not to make the predicate fuzzy as a whole=20

bangu2 is fuzzily related to bangu1 while bangu1 has a strong relationship=
=20
with bangu3=20

>
> .i mi'e la tsani mu'o=20
>
> --=20
> Jacob Thomas Errington=20
> W: https://jerrington.me/=20
>

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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"gmail_attr">E=
m s=C3=A1bado, 26 de setembro de 2020 =C3=A0s 17:03:47 UTC+3, la tsani escr=
eveu:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 0.8=
ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">On Sat, =
Sep 26, 2020 at 01:55:24AM -0700, <a href=3D"" data-email-masked=3D"" rel=
=3D"nofollow">gleki.is...@gmail.com</a> wrote:
<br>&gt; That's not something geeky. It was asked before for translating "I=
 barely
<br>&gt; speak Lojban" because it modifies not the arguments (neither Lojba=
n nor me
<br>&gt; are fu<br>
<br>What's wrong with {.i mi so'uva'e lo ka se jbobau} ?&nbsp;</blockquote>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 0.8ex; border-left=
: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>Also, I reckon this also a translation problem. Perhaps {.i mi tolcre
<br>lo ka se jbobau} or {.i mi tolcre lo ka tavla fo lo lojbo} more
<br>accurately captures what one means to say in "I barely speak Lojban."
<br>
<br>&gt; My attempt for such a brivla
<br>&gt; "enki =3D x1 is bound to x2 by relationship x3 (relationship with =
two {ce'u}
<br>&gt; for x1 and x2); Used to more precisely express relationship (wheth=
er fuzzy
<br>&gt; or not) between terbricmi (predicate slots) and arguments (sumti) =
filling
<br>&gt; those slots. See also ckini
<br>
<br>How is this any different from {ckini} ?
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Well the initial goal o=
f enka was applying fuzzy relation to two arguments of the selbri, not to m=
ake the predicate fuzzy as a whole&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>bangu2 is=
 fuzzily related to bangu1 while bangu1 has a strong relationship with bang=
u3&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 0.8e=
x; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>.i mi'e la tsani mu'o
<br>
<br>--
<br>Jacob Thomas Errington
<br>W: <a href=3D"https://jerrington.me/" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow=
" data-saferedirecturl=3D"https://www.google.com/url?hl=3Dpt&amp;q=3Dhttps:=
//jerrington.me/&amp;source=3Dgmail&amp;ust=3D1601236911633000&amp;usg=3DAF=
QjCNFBQMtPxZs3k3dOYccdFkOf6m7oig">https://jerrington.me/</a>
<br></blockquote></div>

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