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[2607:f2f8:a1d8::b19:0:f0b]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o2si36503pjq.0.2020.12.02.19.20.42 for (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 02 Dec 2020 19:20:42 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of scope845hlang343jbo@icebubble.org designates 2607:f2f8:a1d8::b19:0:f0b as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f2f8:a1d8::b19:0:f0b; Received: from petunia by icebubble.org with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1kkfFZ-0005Sd-M5 for lojban@googlegroups.com; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 03:25:45 +0000 Received: from rusat by cmarib.ramside with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1kkcX9-0004ds-2U for lojban@googlegroups.com; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 00:31:43 +0000 From: scope845hlang343jbo@icebubble.org To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: [lojban] Re: {zo'e} References: <2914956.R1SSoXq267@puma> <3057250.gkAYTAapcS@puma> Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2020 00:31:42 +0000 In-Reply-To: <3057250.gkAYTAapcS@puma> (Pierre Abbat's message of "Thu, 26 Nov 2020 11:37:53 -0500") Message-ID: <86v9djg26p.fsf@cmarib.ramside> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Original-Sender: scope845hlang343jbo@icebubble.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of scope845hlang343jbo@icebubble.org designates 2607:f2f8:a1d8::b19:0:f0b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=scope845hlang343jbo@icebubble.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_bar: -- Ilmen writes: > I would like to ask you clarifications on the meaning of the cmavo > {zo'e}, which is defined in the CLL at > https://lojban.github.io/cll/7/7/index.html Formal definitions of cmavo can be found on the BPFK pages of the Wiki at lojban.org. When I say "formal" definitions, I mean that their meanings are defined very specifially, typically using Lojban. Pierre Abbat writes: > {mi tirna zo'e .i mi viska zo'e} is compatible with {mi tirna lo datka .i mi > viska lo gerku}, but {mi tirna su'o da .i mi viska su'o da} is not. I don't think that's correct. IIRC, the two {da} are only synonymous when the bridi are logically connected. So, for example, if it were {mi tirna su'o da .ije mi viska su'o da}, you'd be correct. Pierre Abbat writes: > Many years ago, I was traveling somewhere by train, and the train hit a > (drunk?) bum who had fallen asleep on the track. The crew told us that the That actually happened to an acquaintance of an acquaintance of mine, a few years back. Here's one of the newspaper articles on it: Dover Police: Man killed by train may have been a transient Foster's Daily Democrat Saturday, October 15, 2011 By LARRY W. BROWN http://fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111015/GJNEWS_01/710159944/-1/FOSNEWS01/ Whether it was a murder or suicide was never quite sorted-out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/lojban/86v9djg26p.fsf%40cmarib.ramside.