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[2607:f2f8:a1d8::b19:0:f0b]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v81si184860iod.4.2021.01.13.17.21.17 for (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 13 Jan 2021 17:21:17 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of scope845hlang343jbo@icebubble.org designates 2607:f2f8:a1d8::b19:0:f0b as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f2f8:a1d8::b19:0:f0b; Received: from petunia by icebubble.org with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1kzrQ1-0006Wx-SL for lojban@googlegroups.com; Thu, 14 Jan 2021 01:27:21 +0000 Received: from rusat by cmarib.ramside with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1kznVs-0003Rj-Vr for lojban@googlegroups.com; Wed, 13 Jan 2021 21:17:09 +0000 From: scope845hlang343jbo@icebubble.org To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: [lojban] Re: Multiple-variable abstractions References: <86o8iru85f.fsf@cmarib.ramside> <86blep9yni.fsf@cmarib.ramside> <8ff75cde-1243-5188-489e-e11276a75a07@mail.jerrington.me> <86zh1s9mw5.fsf@cmarib.ramside> <103d554a-d7f5-918e-bb82-6e025e41131b@mail.jerrington.me> <86zh1lhoao.fsf_-_@cmarib.ramside> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 21:17:08 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Jacob Thomas Errington's message of "Thu, 07 Jan 2021 17:59:57 GMT") Message-ID: <86o8hs7d0r.fsf@cmarib.ramside> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Sender: scope845hlang343jbo@icebubble.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of scope845hlang343jbo@icebubble.org designates 2607:f2f8:a1d8::b19:0:f0b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=scope845hlang343jbo@icebubble.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_bar: -- Jacob Thomas Errington writes: >> (3) Any unexpressed places following the second {ce'u}, if any, are >> assumed to be {ce'u}. > Rule 3 only really works in simple abstractions; how does one deal > with situations like {lo ka ce'u broda lo pendo be ce'u}? .a'onairu'e la'edi'u jetnu > The way {ce'ai} works in general is that each sumti appearing in it is > understood as a binder. We concocted {ce'ai} back in ~2013 when > discussing how to reuse {ce'u} within a ka-abstraction. Here's a > contrived example: > > =C2=A0 without ce'ai: {.i mi ckaji lo ka ce'u goi ko'a batci ko'a} > =C2=A0 with ce'ai: {.i mi ckaji lo ka ko'a ce'ai ko'a ko'a batci} ki'a .i zo GOI xu selma'o zo ce'ai .i zo ZOhU xu go'i .i mi stidi tu'a lu mi ckaji lo ka ce'u zo'u ce'u ce'u batci li'u > P.S. are you a member of roljbogu'e discord server? na go'i .i le skami ciste na ciste fi le mi zdani .uu --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/= lojban/86o8hs7d0r.fsf%40cmarib.ramside.