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From: "Mark E. Shoulson" <mark@kli.org>
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 20:42:17 -0500
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 1/13/21 5:16 PM,
      <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:scope845hlang343=
jbo@icebubble.org">scope845hlang343jbo@icebubble.org</a> wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote type=3D"cite" cite=3D"mid:86o8hs5vq0.fsf@cmarib.ramside">
      <pre class=3D"moz-quote-pre" wrap=3D"">Jacob Thomas Errington <a clas=
s=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:jake@mail.jerrington.me">&lt;jak=
e@mail.jerrington.me&gt;</a> writes:

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        <pre class=3D"moz-quote-pre" wrap=3D"">=C2=A0 {mi viska lo na nanmu=
} is an affirmative statement, that I see
something that satisfies (the negative) {na nanmu}.
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      <pre class=3D"moz-quote-pre" wrap=3D"">
By your interpretation, would the following two bridi mean the same
thing?

  .i mi viska lo na nanmu

  .i mi viska lo na'e nanmu

They'd both be saying that you see something other than a man.

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    <p>But they don't mean the same thing.=C2=A0 {lo na nanmu} is not the
      same as {lo na'e nanmu}.=C2=A0 {lo na nanmu} is a thing that doesn't
      {nanmu}.=C2=A0 But {na'e} is a *scalar* negator, not a logical one.=
=C2=A0 It
      implies some sort of scale of {nanmu}itude (lo ni nanmu), and says
      that what you're seeing is on the negative side of it.=C2=A0 Exactly
      what that would mean I'm not sure I could say for certain.=C2=A0 Is t=
he
      scale {nanmu}=E2=86=94{ninmu}?=C2=A0 In that case, a woman would be {=
lo na'e
      nanmu} as well as {lo na nanmu}, but a rock is {lo na nanmu} but
      not {lo na'e nanmu}.=C2=A0 But the scale here is not obvious.</p>
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    <p>~mark<br>
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