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[173.13.139.236]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a10sm8494793pfo.75.2021.09.13.21.19.31 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 13 Sep 2021 21:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 21:19:30 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: llg-board@lojban.org, llg-members@lojban.org, lojban@lojban.org, president@lojban.org, vp@lojban.org, secretary@lojban.org, treasurer@lojban.org, la gleki , lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: [lojban] Re: Should I just shut mailman off? (lojban.org infra question) Message-ID: <20210914041930.GF2313647@gmail.com> References: <20210914014449.GE2313647@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210914014449.GE2313647@gmail.com> X-Original-Sender: robinleepowell@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=iHLMJMeV; spf=pass (google.com: domain of robinleepowell@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::635 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=robinleepowell@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_bar: -- [This didn't get sent to llg-board@lojban.org and llg-members@lojban.org last time, so re-sending, sorry.] I'm working very hard right now to stop being a bus-factor=1 Lojban sysadmin (in case that makes no sense: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor#Definition ). I have been *very* actively working on updating and containerizing all the lojban.org infrastructure, with the end goal of making a series of videos that would let anyone with a master password manage any of the Lojban infrastructure I run, even in the event of my house exploding. A thing that is taking a surprising amount of effort is mailman, which is the mailing list management software I run for y'all. This is used for the following lists: Kabal Lojban-fr llg-board Llg-members Lojban-de Lojban-es Lojban-fr Note that this does *not* include the two major public lists, https://groups.google.com/g/bpfk-list and https://groups.google.com/g/lojban The only ones that have had any significant traffic in a long time are llg-board and llg-members. None have received any traffic of consequence since 2019, and it looks like the board and members stuff is now happening on mattermost. It would be *significantly* easier for me to just turn the whole thing off, leaving read-only archives. Having said that, I *do* have new mailman infrastructure working, so I could leave it running. What do people think the right move is here? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/lojban/20210914041930.GF2313647%40gmail.com.