From sentto-44114-15035-1029156808-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Mon Aug 12 05:54:02 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 12 Aug 2002 05:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n34.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.102]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17eEhr-0007Ds-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 05:53:59 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-15035-1029156808-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.192] by n34.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2002 12:53:28 -0000 X-Sender: Philip.Newton@datenrevision.de X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 12 Aug 2002 12:53:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 91361 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2002 12:53:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Aug 2002 12:53:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO spree.gedas.de) (139.1.44.12) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 2002 12:53:27 -0000 Received: from spree.gedas.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spree.gedas.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28658 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:53:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from blnsem05.de.gedas.vwg (blnsem05.gedas.de [139.1.84.49]) by spree.gedas.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28651; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:53:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by blnsem05.de.gedas.vwg with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <3W819XSV>; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:53:24 +0200 Message-ID: To: "'John Cowan'" Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) From: "Newton, Philip" X-Yahoo-Profile: elder_newton MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:53:20 +0200 Subject: Re: [lojban] nolraitru Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 565 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: Philip.Newton@datenrevision.de Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list John Cowan wrote: > > Newton, Philip scripsit: > > > > How would you expand "nolraitru" (meaning "king") into a tanru? > > > > The obvious "nobli traji turni" doesn't make sense to me, > > since that is "(nobli traji) turni", i.e. "(noble type-of > > superlative) type-of governor". > > That's exactly what it means: among all noble (=high-ranking by birth) > governors, the king is the noblest. OK. I was confused by the turn of idiom, since Lojban seems to put it the other way around from English (nobly superlative or superlative in nobleness, rather than superlatively noble). mu'omi'e filip. [email copies appreciated, since I read the digest] {ko fukpi mrilu .i'o fi mi ki'u le du'u mi te mrilu loi notseljmaji} -- Philip Newton All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/RN.GAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/