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From: Jordan DeLong <fracture@allusion.net>
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Subject: Re: [lojban] kau -- What does it really mean?!
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On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 06:59:27PM +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote:
[...]
> Comment2:  ????
>            The number of people here is a large number.
> 
> You want to refer to the number of people here in
> terms of the question "how many people are here?".
> You want to extract a number from a proposition.
> 
> Before trying to do it in the question-indirect question
> case, we should be able to do it in the simple proposition
> case. How do we refer to the number 57 in terms of
> {muze prenu cu zvati}?
> 
> We don't have an operator that extracts a quantifier from
> one of the sumti (and which sumti would it be?) of a bridi.
> We could do something vague like: {le namcu pe le du'u
> muze prenu cu zvati}, "the number associated with
> fifty-seven people being here", and then we can use the
> same trick in the indirect question case:
[...]

What's wrong with something along the lines of
	le ni zvati prenu cu barda

I think this is maybe getting away from what the OP was talking
about, but I think the 'ni' abstractor does what you want for above.

-- 
Jordan DeLong
fracture@allusion.net