From sentto-44114-15498-1031683364-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Tue Sep 10 11:49:22 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:49:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.90]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17oq4d-0006jZ-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:49:19 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-15498-1031683364-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.200] by n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Sep 2002 18:42:45 -0000 X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 10 Sep 2002 18:42:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 18908 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2002 18:42:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Sep 2002 18:42:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r05.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.101) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Sep 2002 18:42:43 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id r.1a9.8336f0f (3956) for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:42:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1a9.8336f0f.2aaf971d@aol.com> To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10509 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Profile: kaliputra MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:42:37 EDT Subject: Re: [lojban] tunlo Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1a9.8336f0f.2aaf971d_boundary" X-archive-position: 1030 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pycyn@aol.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --part1_1a9.8336f0f.2aaf971d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/10/2002 11:31:21 AM Central Daylight Time, gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch writes: > mu'i ma noda ka'e sumti zo tunlo li re i pe'i le ba nenri be le betfu cu > go'i .ei i pe'ipei > This was one of a set of "basic actions," in the philosophical "muscle twitch" sense, that were separated out to allow one predicate to cover a wide range of "non-basic actions" (twitches with purposes and affecting things other than the body itself) by compounding. Whether the philosophy behind this was sound, we are stuck with several of these and they seem to work OK. On the other hand, we left several potential members of the set unreduced and somehow manage to deal with all the cases anyhow. (see the "action" set in the 1-place predicates in the partially organized lists). We can, after all, swallow without swallowing anything, even spit -- and {zi'o} is more suspect than compounds. --part1_1a9.8336f0f.2aaf971d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/10/2002 11:31:21 AM Central Daylight Time, gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch writes:


mu'i ma noda ka'e sumti zo tunlo li re i pe'i le ba nenri be le betfu cu
go'i .ei i pe'ipei


This was one of a set of "basic actions," in the philosophical "muscle twitch" sense, that were separated out to allow one predicate to cover a wide range of "non-basic actions" (twitches with purposes and affecting things other than the body itself) by compounding.  Whether the philosophy behind this was sound, we are stuck with several of these and they seem to work OK.  On the other hand, we left several potential members of the set unreduced and somehow manage to deal with all the cases anyhow.  (see the "action" set in the 1-place predicates in the partially organized lists).
We can, after all, swallow without swallowing anything, even spit -- and {zi'o} is more suspect than compounds.
Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
ADVERTISEMENT

To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
--part1_1a9.8336f0f.2aaf971d_boundary--