From sentto-44114-15506-1031687217-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Tue Sep 10 12:47:34 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:47:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.87]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17oqyu-0006vB-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:47:28 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-15506-1031687217-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.193] by n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Sep 2002 19:46:57 -0000 X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 10 Sep 2002 19:46:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 5907 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2002 19:46:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Sep 2002 19:46:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.171) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Sep 2002 19:46:56 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:46:56 -0700 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:46:56 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2002 19:46:56.0581 (UTC) FILETIME=[D1E15F50:01C25902] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:46:56 +0000 Subject: Re: [lojban] word for "www" (was: Archive location.) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 1038 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list la zirbolc cusku di'e >I'd like to point out that a "book" is a physical object. We had a never-ending (and never ended) discussion about this some years ago. If there are three copies of Le Petit Prince and two copies of Alice in Wonderland on the table, how many books are there on the table? How many cukta? The x2 and x3 of cukta suggest that x1 is the work, because subject and author concern the work, not the physical object. The x4 suggests that x1 is the physical object, because the medium concerns the physical object, not the work. {cukta} is just one of those mish-mash predicates with too many places that are probably beyond repair. Is "Le Petit Prince" the title of a physical object, or of a work of fiction? Is it the title of one cukta or of many thousands of cukta? As for the WWW, the one I'm starting to like is pc's {mledi} coupled with {munje}, but only if we can find a third m-sumti to make it jell. Maybe {le manci munje mledi}, shortened to MMM. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/