From sentto-44114-15723-1032052979-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Sat Sep 14 18:25:02 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 14 Sep 2002 18:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n5.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.89]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17qO9X-0004IU-00 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 18:24:47 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-15723-1032052979-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.194] by n5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Sep 2002 01:22:59 -0000 X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 15 Sep 2002 01:22:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 99608 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2002 01:22:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Sep 2002 01:22:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lakemtao04.cox.net) (68.1.17.241) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Sep 2002 01:22:57 -0000 Received: from lojban.lojban.org ([68.100.206.153]) by lakemtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20020915012255.CJMB1315.lakemtao04.cox.net@lojban.lojban.org> for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 21:22:55 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020914210446.03273160@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rlechevalier@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 To: In-Reply-To: References: <42.2d5e29fb.2ab50401@aol.com> From: Robert LeChevalier X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 21:16:52 -0400 Subject: RE: [lojban] RE: Logfest2003 and beyond. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 1211 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list At 12:25 AM 9/15/02 +0100, And Rosta wrote: > > As an only occasional attender to Logfest, let me toss in a few fepni. > > 1. As I age even more, my body likes less and less sleeping on floors and > > being stepped on by people dashing to computers, so the idea of being in a > > h/motel room wiht a bed is appealing. > >Do people *really* sleep on the floor at Logfest? I haven't slept on a floor >since 1986 & can't imagine not staying in a hotel. Is sleeping on floors >part of American culture? Living REAL cheap has been part of Lojban (or at least LogFest) culture, since we have been perpetually short of cash and heavy with low-income college students (though many of these have aged). In addition, for the longest time, people brought sleeping bags. Actually our house has a goodly supply of spare beds and futons (albeit the latter lie on the floor) and couches and reclining chairs, so that despite over 20 people at LogFest last summer, I don't think that anyone slept on the floor unless they chose to (local Paulfrancis O'Sullivan often chooses to). There was a lot of doubling up in queen-sized beds, however. There has never been a "rule" against motels - Bob McIvor stayed in one when he came to LogFest. But LogFest activities traditionally have gone into all hours of the night, with people going to sleep only when they could stay awake no longer (and Nick among others seeming NEVER to sleep), and on Sunday morning needing a wake up call in order for the meeting to start at 1030AM, the latest that we could start and be likely to finish before people had to leave Sunday. Locals who went home for the night (paralleling the motel case) usually left at utterly sane hours like 11PM, thereby missing a lot of the fun. The fact that motels in this area are more expensive than in other parts of the country did not help. >(Does anybody smoke? I can't imagine much worse than sleeping on the >floor in a nonsmoking environment...) No smokers, and we keep two air filters running constantly because of cats in the house, which some people are allergic to). lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Plan to Sell a Home? http://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/MVfIAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/