From sentto-44114-15754-1032194647-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Mon Sep 16 09:46:14 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 16 Sep 2002 09:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.90]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17qz0l-0003io-00 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 09:46:12 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-15754-1032194647-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.201] by n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Sep 2002 16:44:09 -0000 X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 16 Sep 2002 16:44:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 62533 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2002 16:44:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Sep 2002 16:44:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.reutershealth.com) (65.246.141.151) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2002 16:44:07 -0000 Received: from skunk.reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[10.65.117.21]) by mail2.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA04864; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 12:55:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200209161655.MAA04864@mail2.reutershealth.com> Received: by skunk.reutershealth.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 16 Sep 2002 12:44:04 -0400 To: jjllambias@hotmail.com (Jorge Llambias) Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: from "Jorge Llambias" at Sep 16, 2002 03:27:11 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Profile: john_w_cowan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 12:44:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: I like chocolate Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 1242 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Jorge Llambias scripsit: > >So {viska lo'e boa} does make sense. Different from {viska lo boa}? > > To the extent that it would allow for personal visions, yes. > In normal circumstances, {viska lo'e sincrboa} should require > {viska lo sincrboa}. But this is because of the meaning of > {viska}, not because of the meaning of {lo'e sincrboa}. I find the concept "viska lo'e co'e" a bit disturbing, unless it were construed as "seeing something which has visual features typical of X", which would be yet a further extension of "lo'e". (Or would it?) > The abstract generics that can't be seen are not referred to > here. lo'e sincrboa ka'e se viska, boas can be seen. That which can be seen has a color, but what is the color of lo'e sincrbo'a? -- John Cowan jcowan@reutershealth.com www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan "The exception proves the rule". Dimbulbs think: "Your counterexample proves my theory." Classicists think "'Probat' means 'tests': the exception puts the rule to the proof." But legal historians know it means "Evidence for an exception is evidence of the existence of a rule in cases not excepted from." ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Sell a Home with Ease! http://us.click.yahoo.com/SrPZMC/kTmEAA/MVfIAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/