From sentto-44114-15792-1032297340-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Tue Sep 17 14:17:50 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n33.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.101]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17rPjA-0006MV-00 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:17:48 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-15792-1032297340-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.196] by n33.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2002 21:15:40 -0000 X-Sender: raganok@intrex.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 17 Sep 2002 21:15:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 44343 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2002 21:15:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Sep 2002 21:15:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO intrex.net) (209.42.192.250) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Sep 2002 21:15:39 -0000 Received: from Craig [209.42.200.29] by intrex.net (SMTPD32-5.05) id AB7BC8AC0190; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:15:39 -0400 To: Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <1a1.8cb1fa5.2ab8b27e@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-Declude-Sender: raganok@intrex.net [209.42.200.29] X-eGroups-From: "Craig" From: "Craig" X-Yahoo-Profile: kreig_daniyl MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:15:39 -0400 Subject: RE: [lojban] taiku ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 1280 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ragnarok@pobox.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list >>> As a member of the generation that uses this like: >>> It is not actually freestanding - a grammar has evolved of when it is and >is >>> not used. >>In particular, it is used as a marker of indirect and sometimes even >>direct discourse: standard "I said that P" comes out "I'm, like, P." >I actually find that usage less commonly than as a marker of secondhand >knowledge, but it is used also. >>> >Muffy Siegel at Temple U claims to ahve isolated three usages: >1) The quotation introduction mentioned above >2) a hedge -- what follows is not guaranteed accurate (this is probably the same as the secondhand knowledge case -- the data would overlap, at least). The data certainly would overlap; I would guess that the particulars vary. Perhaps this is a regional or other social distinction. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Sell a Home for Top $ http://us.click.yahoo.com/RrPZMC/jTmEAA/MVfIAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/