From sentto-44114-15795-1032298546-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Tue Sep 17 14:37:59 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.93]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17rQ2f-0006Qi-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:37:57 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-15795-1032298546-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.94] by n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2002 21:35:47 -0000 X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 17 Sep 2002 21:35:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 32342 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2002 21:35:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Sep 2002 21:35:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.reutershealth.com) (65.246.141.151) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Sep 2002 21:35:46 -0000 Received: from skunk.reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[10.65.117.21]) by mail2.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA06165; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:46:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200209172146.RAA06165@mail2.reutershealth.com> Received: by skunk.reutershealth.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:35:16 -0400 To: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de (A.W.T.) Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: from "A.W.T." at Sep 17, 2002 09:18:51 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Profile: john_w_cowan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:35:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: carolingianosity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 1283 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list A.W.T. scripsit: > there was no 'german' or 'french' state at that time! Carolus Magnus > (Charlesmagne), king of 'Franken' (Franconia?), Variably "the Franks", "the Frankish kingdom", or even "the French empire". > was regarded the leader of the > Roman Empire (much later called 'Das Römische Reich Deutscher Nation'). Fair enough, but is not the Federal Republic a direct successor (in the 5th degree) of that state? So is the Fifth Republic, to be sure. BTW, here is a good page showing how everyone with any European ancestry at all is almost certainly descended from Charlemagne. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies! || John Cowan Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies. -- Coleridge (tr. Politzer) ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/