From sentto-44114-15813-1032370954-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Wed Sep 18 10:44:48 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 18 Sep 2002 10:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n33.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.101]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17risY-0001DS-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 10:44:46 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-15813-1032370954-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.201] by n33.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2002 17:42:35 -0000 X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 18 Sep 2002 17:42:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 77214 invoked from network); 18 Sep 2002 17:42:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Sep 2002 17:42:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.7) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Sep 2002 17:42:33 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 10:42:33 -0700 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 17:42:33 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Sep 2002 17:42:33.0990 (UTC) FILETIME=[C5225A60:01C25F3A] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 17:42:33 +0000 Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: I like chocolate Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 1301 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list la and cusku di'e >Is {tu'a da} a cover for {tu'o du'u da zo'u ce'u co'e da}? That is the >crux, and I think we all want the answer to be Yes. We all want that as far as where the quantifier goes, I'm sure about that. But in general, {tu'a da} is a cover for any of: {tu'o du'u da zo'u ce'u co'e da} {tu'o du'u da zo'u co'e da} {tu'o? nu da zo'u co'e da} and possibly others. Which one it is depends on where it is used. It's a du'u in a place that accepts {du'u}s, a nu in a place that accepts {nu}s. >BTW, are you actually proposing locutions like {nelci tu'a lo cakla}, >{nelci tu'o du'u ce'u co'e lo cakla}? To me, those don't mean the >same thing as "I like chocolate". I don't think he was proposing that. In this case, x2 of nelci accepts {nu}s, not {du'u}s, so it means {nelci ?? nu co'e lo cakla}. (I think ?? = {tu'o} or equivalently {lo'e}.) mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Plan to Sell a Home? http://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/MVfIAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/