From sentto-44114-15913-1032553990-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Fri Sep 20 13:35:38 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 20 Sep 2002 13:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n7.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.91]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17sUUy-0002kq-00 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 13:35:36 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-15913-1032553990-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.201] by n7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Sep 2002 20:33:11 -0000 X-Sender: gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 20 Sep 2002 20:33:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 78018 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2002 20:33:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Sep 2002 20:33:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta11n.bluewin.ch) (195.186.1.211) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Sep 2002 20:33:10 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (62.202.159.74) by mta11n.bluewin.ch (Bluewin AG 6.5.027) id 3D8B75630000127A for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:33:06 +0200 Message-ID: <003801c260e4$f712a740$e8a203d5@oemcomputer> To: "jboste" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 From: "G. Dyke" X-Yahoo-Profile: gregvdyke MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:33:22 +0200 Subject: re: [lojban] bloti/marce Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 1401 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Xod: > On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, G. Dyke wrote: > > > What is the difference between a {bloti} and a {marce}? I can work out why > > we have {litru}{klama}{muvdu}{cliva} (although I'm not quite convinced that > > there is a big enough difference between klama and muvdu), but I'm not sure > > how a {bloti} differs from a {marce}. In fact, I would expect the {bloti} to > > be the one which has the medium of transport as part of the structure. > > > > lo'i si'o bloti cu klesi lo'i si'o marce .i lo bloti cu marce fi lo djacu Not by definition it isn't: bloti lot blo lo'i boat /x1 is a boat/ship/vessel [vehicle] for carrying x2, propelled by x3 Does this boat/ship/vessel intend a "float on water" gloss in the original intention? If so, I'll make it explicit in the French gi'uste because "vaisseau", the French of "vessel" is used of space ships as well. Are flying saucers just {kensa marce} or are they also {kensa bloti}? Greg -- http://www.myepfl.ch/gregory.dyke .i lo'e to'e makcu cu djica lenu tolcumla morsi kei lo telda'a .i lo'e je'a makcu cu go'i to'ebo le se go'i ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/ySSFAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/