From sentto-44114-16066-1032884469-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Tue Sep 24 09:24:02 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 24 Sep 2002 09:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.84]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17tsTg-0001xQ-00 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 09:24:00 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-16066-1032884469-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.192] by n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2002 16:21:09 -0000 X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 24 Sep 2002 16:21:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 92943 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2002 16:21:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Sep 2002 16:21:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.reutershealth.com) (65.246.141.151) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Sep 2002 16:21:03 -0000 Received: from skunk.reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[10.65.117.21]) by mail2.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA12537; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:32:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200209241632.MAA12537@mail2.reutershealth.com> Received: by skunk.reutershealth.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:20:44 -0400 To: opoudjis@optushome.com.au (Nick Nicholas) Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: from "Nick Nicholas" at Sep 25, 2002 01:39:14 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Profile: john_w_cowan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:20:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [lojban] Re: rau Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 1554 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Nick Nicholas scripsit: > In accordance with the supplicatory model: If Lojbab wrote this text, > then Lojbab must have intended "rau" to mean 'small enough' as well as > 'large enough'. Indeed, the example goes back to JCB. > The formal way of stating this without being braindamaged is: "rau" > indicates a quantity which is satisfactory for the purposes of the > perspective-holder in context [not necessarily the speaker], as they > can be inferred from context. Its reference is not constrained to being > a ceiling value ('large enough value'), it may be a floor ('small > enough value') or a median value, according to context. I support this interpretation. -- There is / One art John Cowan No more / No less http://www.reutershealth.com To do / All things http://www.ccil.org/~cowan With art- / Lessness -- Piet Hein ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Looking for a more powerful website? Try GeoCities for $8.95 per month. Register your domain name (http://your-name.com). More storage! No ads! http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info http://us.click.yahoo.com/aHOo4D/KJoEAA/ySSFAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/