From fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com Thu Sep 26 23:06:05 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 26 Sep 2002 23:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com ([66.68.125.184] ident=root) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17uoGI-00014c-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 23:06:02 -0700 Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (asdf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g8R6AFGZ025893 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 01:10:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com) Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g8R6AFx4025892 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 01:10:15 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 01:10:15 -0500 From: Jordan DeLong To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: paroi ro mentu Message-ID: <20020927061015.GB24912@allusion.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-archive-position: 1607 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fracture@allusion.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 11:00:37PM +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote: > What do you all think of this: >=20 > le plini cu mulcarna paroi ro mentu >=20 > 1- Is {mulcarna} good for "x1 makes a full turn around x2 > in direction x3"? This works fine I think; I don't think carna requires that the axis of rotation intersect the le carna, so it should be fine. > 2- The problem with {paroi ro mentu} is that the quantifiers > are in the wrong order. The alternative {ro da poi mentu zo'u > le plini cu mulcarna paroi da} is too longwinded and requires > forethought. Any ideas? But it's not actually true that it does it paroi ro mentu. Certainly the planet hasn't been there forever, eh? lo'e mentu isn't quite right either probably (i'm no astronomer though). It seems like this may be a good place to use "le'e", as it's really not neccesarily a representative lo'e minute of all the minutes, but is instead representative of a relevant subset of lo'i mentu (particularly the subset for which the planet hasn't yet been engulfed in its sun's supernova or however else planets cease to be, and after which it has formed). So I suggest {paroi le'e mentu}. pe'ipei (btw; on a tangent: what the hell does x3 and x4 of plini mean? Has anyone ever used them in a sentence?) --=20 Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku --yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9k/ZGDrrilS51AZ8RAt34AJ4r8kjj90relP/kWpWGazbP3ZxdVACgkkdF ZpzQNNoIO5xQRrLk4dM3HJ8= =jYdN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip--