From sentto-44114-16168-1033173381-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Fri Sep 27 17:39:36 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 27 Sep 2002 17:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.64]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17v5dt-00056E-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 17:39:33 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-16168-1033173381-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.198] by n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Sep 2002 00:36:21 -0000 X-Sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 28 Sep 2002 00:36:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 14428 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2002 00:36:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Sep 2002 00:36:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailbox-6.st1.spray.net) (212.78.202.106) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Sep 2002 00:36:21 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (host213-121-70-133.surfport24.v21.co.uk [213.121.70.133]) by mailbox-6.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF6B28822 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 02:36:11 +0200 (DST) To: "Lojban@Yahoogroups. Com" Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 01:37:49 +0100 Subject: [lojban] metre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 X-archive-position: 1656 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Three questions on metre. 1. In English metre, in certain environments it is normal for stressed syllables to be metrically weak and for unstressed syllables to be metrically strong. To what extent is this forbidden for Lojban (assuming we want verse Lojban to self-segment properly)? 2. Given that all Lojban speakers can (I posit) speak with an accent in which the buffer vowel is never elided, while not all Lojban speakers can speak with an accent in which the buffer vowel is always elided, would you agree that metrical Lojban verse that aspires to be recitable by all speakers should treat all buffer vowels as unelided? 3. Do you think that the native metres of Lojbanistan are made up of regular patterns of strong and weak syllables? --And. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/