From sentto-44114-16254-1033348002-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Sun Sep 29 18:10:55 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 29 Sep 2002 18:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n36.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.104]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17vp4p-0006uf-00 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 18:10:23 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-16254-1033348002-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.98] by n36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Sep 2002 01:06:42 -0000 X-Sender: raganok@intrex.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 30 Sep 2002 01:06:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 72508 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2002 01:06:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Sep 2002 01:06:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO intrex.net) (209.42.192.250) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Sep 2002 01:06:41 -0000 Received: from Craig [209.42.200.29] by intrex.net (SMTPD32-5.05) id A3A2526D006A; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 21:06:42 -0400 To: Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-Declude-Sender: raganok@intrex.net [209.42.200.29] X-eGroups-From: "Craig" From: "Craig" X-Yahoo-Profile: kreig_daniyl MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 21:06:42 -0400 Subject: [lojban] Re: MELBI COI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 1742 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ragnarok@pobox.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list >I don't know. I'm thinking of the slogan "el pueblo, unido, jamás >será vencido": "The people, united, will never be defeated". >Maybe the problem is that I've always understood it as an >unrealized aspiration and not as a description of a state of >affairs. I don't get the same from "Reino Unido", "Estados Unidos", >"Naciones Unidas", etc. The people of the Naciones Unidas will never be defeated, unless a hostile alien being shows up. Of course, we aren't united completely, but if we were we might be able to defeat them. Even so, if they are like the ones in "signs" we can still beat them. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Home Selling? Try Us! http://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/MVfIAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/