From sentto-44114-16280-1033414964-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Mon Sep 30 12:46:19 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 30 Sep 2002 12:46:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.77]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17w6Ui-0001yD-00 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 12:46:16 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-16280-1033414964-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.197] by n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Sep 2002 19:42:45 -0000 X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 30 Sep 2002 19:42:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 33332 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2002 19:42:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Sep 2002 19:42:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.reutershealth.com) (65.246.141.151) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Sep 2002 19:42:43 -0000 Received: from skunk.reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[10.65.117.21]) by mail2.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA24895; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 15:54:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200209301954.PAA24895@mail2.reutershealth.com> Received: by skunk.reutershealth.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 30 Sep 2002 15:42:10 -0400 To: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk (And Rosta) Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com (lojban) In-Reply-To: from "And Rosta" at Sep 30, 2002 08:40:01 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Profile: john_w_cowan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 15:42:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [lojban] Re: LOI PRENU GO PA MEI GI KA'E NAI TE JINGA? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 1768 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list And Rosta scripsit: > Is {ka'e nai} not standard Lojban for "cannot"? The meaning I intended > was "is a unity iff cannot be defeated" -- makes a stronger claim than > the original, but not inappropriately so. That is, the meaning is > "go pa mei gi na ka'e te jinga". No, ka'enai is ungrammatical. But it so happens that "ka'e na" will work, since tenses and NAs can be interchanged. -- Knowledge studies others / Wisdom is self-known; John Cowan Muscle masters brothers / Self-mastery is bone; jcowan@reutershealth.com Content need never borrow / Ambition wanders blind; www.ccil.org/~cowan Vitality cleaves to the marrow / Leaving death behind. --Tao 33 (Bynner) ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Home Selling? Try Us! http://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/MVfIAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/