From xod@thestonecutters.net Tue Oct 01 12:06:59 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 01 Oct 2002 12:06:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [66.111.194.10] (helo=granite.thestonecutters.net) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17wSMC-0008Io-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2002 12:06:56 -0700 Received: from localhost (xod@localhost) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g91J3nU86972 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 15:03:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 15:03:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Invent Yourself To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] xoi'a Message-ID: <20021001145930.L85859-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 1792 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Rosta, care to elaborate? I agree with the ZAhO point. From the Wiki: * xoi'a? [PU]: increasing linearly over time * la papri xoi'a pelxu: The page is yellowing. * xoi'e? [PU]: exponential increasing * do xoi'e lojbo certu: You're learning Lojban at an exponential rate. * Semantically, xoi'a/xoi'e belong in ZAhO, since they deal with change in truth over time. For example, co'a is change from categorically false to categorically true. xoi'a/xoi'e deal with rates of increase in degree of truth. However, there are several possible rates of increase, and there is also the possibility of decrease, so I think this domain of meaning requires some more comprehensive proposal than simply these two cmavo. --And -- Before Sept. 11 there was not the present excited talk about a strike on Iraq. There is no evidence of any connection between Iraq and that act of terrorism. Why would that event change the situation? -- Howard Zinn