From sentto-44114-16372-1033652853-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Thu Oct 03 06:51:29 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 03 Oct 2002 06:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n35.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.103]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17x6Nx-00027k-00 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2002 06:51:25 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-16372-1033652853-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.193] by n35.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Oct 2002 13:47:33 -0000 X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 3 Oct 2002 13:47:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 20419 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2002 13:47:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Oct 2002 13:47:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m03.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.6) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Oct 2002 13:47:32 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id r.70.23f833f6 (17377) for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:47:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <70.23f833f6.2acda469@aol.com> To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10509 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Profile: kaliputra MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:47:21 EDT Subject: [lojban] Re: tu'o du'u (was Re: xoi'a) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_70.23f833f6.2acda469_boundary" X-archive-position: 1861 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pycyn@aol.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --part1_70.23f833f6.2acda469_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/2/2002 7:15:29 PM Central Daylight Time, lojban-out@lojban.org writes: << > Also I think saying "lo nazbi be mi" is more or less wrong. If > you're talking about your nose, you must know it, so you really > should say "le nazbi be mi". Same thing as the du'u stuff. The > "a nose of mine" reading is much more like "lo nazbi" than "le > nazbi". The inner ro on "le" does *not* imply I have multiple > noses. But using "lo" insead of "le" would imply I'm not sure > which thing is my nose. >> Errh. Isn't the assumed inner quantifier on {le} {su'o} and the outer {ro}? --part1_70.23f833f6.2acda469_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/2/2002 7:15:29 PM Central Daylight Time, lojban-out@lojban.org writes:

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Also I think saying "lo nazbi be mi" is more or less wrong.  If
you're talking about your nose, you must know it, so you really
should say "le nazbi be mi".  Same thing as the du'u stuff.  The
"a nose of mine" reading is much more like "lo nazbi" than "le
nazbi".  The inner ro on "le" does *not* imply I have multiple
noses.  But using "lo" insead of "le" would imply I'm not sure
which thing is my nose
.

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Errh.  Isn't the assumed inner quantifier on {le} {su'o} and the outer {ro}?



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