From sentto-44114-16482-1034011415-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Mon Oct 07 11:03:46 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 07 Oct 2002 11:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n34.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.102]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17ycEI-0001mP-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Mon, 07 Oct 2002 11:03:42 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-16482-1034011415-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.193] by n34.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Oct 2002 17:23:35 -0000 X-Sender: gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_0); 7 Oct 2002 17:23:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 2386 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2002 17:23:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Oct 2002 17:23:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta11n.bluewin.ch) (195.186.1.211) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Oct 2002 17:23:18 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (213.3.160.171) by mta11n.bluewin.ch (Bluewin AG 6.5.027) id 3DA15CE4000158EC for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 19:23:14 +0200 Message-ID: <001301c26e26$38a5d580$aba003d5@oemcomputer> To: "jboste" References: <20021007080519.GP4649@digitalkingdom.org> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 From: "G. Dyke" X-Yahoo-Profile: gregvdyke MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 18:36:34 +0200 Subject: [lojban] RLP's .sig Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 1973 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list > la lojban. jai curmi roda .einai to ku'i so'ada mukti le nu co'a > darlu le'o ki'asai What is this intended to mean? I don't get the jai, unless Robin missed out a se. I grok something like "lojban allows everything [freedom] (but almost all of it starts off an argument [agression])" attitudinals are *not* predicates. le'o means you feel agressive about the fact that usage causes people to take a stance (which is what darlu means : opponent not necessary). Try darlu damba I suppose you might feel lack of constraint/obligation / freedom about the things that lojban allow, but is that what you mean, doi rlp? surely secau [constraint] would be better. A good case for {lo nu} here. Does the first part mean: "Varied lojban usage and expression is possible" or "You can do whatever floats your boat with lojban"? Greg ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Home Selling? Try Us! http://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/MVfIAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/