From sentto-44114-16531-1034157962-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Wed Oct 09 03:10:39 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 09 Oct 2002 03:10:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.73]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17zDnT-0007Mr-00 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2002 03:10:31 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-16531-1034157962-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.192] by n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Oct 2002 10:06:02 -0000 X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_0); 9 Oct 2002 10:06:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 26163 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2002 10:06:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Oct 2002 10:06:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lakemtao02.cox.net) (68.1.17.243) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Oct 2002 10:06:01 -0000 Received: from lojban.lojban.org ([68.100.206.153]) by lakemtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20021009100600.KSBA12192.lakemtao02.cox.net@lojban.lojban.org> for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 06:06:00 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021009054028.03135e20@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rlechevalier@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <20021008230055.H21545-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021008145728.00a8e2a0@pop.east.cox.net> From: Robert LeChevalier X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 05:45:25 -0400 Subject: [lojban] Re: The Future Jbotreya (was: Why linguists might be interested in Lojban (was: a new kind of fundamentalism)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 2023 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list At 11:12 PM 10/8/02 -0400, Invent Yourself wrote: >On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Robert LeChevalier wrote: > > You can detect incompleteness. > >Is Lojban incomplete? Yes. The jboske discussions that result from "How do you say X"?" indicate this. (Not the fact that they exist, but the fact that often there is no ready answer.) > > In terms of current Lojban, my guess is that a level 4 person, when > > confronted by ANY "how to say it" question that is worthy of weeks of > > jboske debate would know the answer off the top of his head, and it would > > be unarguably correct. (A level 5 speaker could come up with multiple ways > > to say it and explain the pros and cons and nuances of each in terms that > > everyone would recognize as unarguably correct > >Isn't it exciting to imagine such a thing? Yes. But I don't expect to see it in this generation. lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Sell a Home with Ease! http://us.click.yahoo.com/SrPZMC/kTmEAA/MVfIAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/